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Italians who simply view pirate IPTV via illicit subscriptions have been warned for months that their activities could be reported to the judicial authorities for potential prosecution. As part of an investigation into a pirate IPTV subscription seller, a total of 23 people have appeared in court in recent months for simply buying a pirate package. Judges in two separate proceedings have now acquitted all 23 after concluding that this type of piracy isn't actually a crime.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because nobody will read the full report, they were all fined with 150 euros, which is the legal minimum. They were acquitted of criminal charges and related civil liability.

They were all paying a reseller, too, not just streaming or downloading freely available content.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Depending how long they had used the service they probably saved more than €150 just by not paying subscriptions to all the services they would need for the same content. Cost of doing business?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Only soccer is around 60€ a month (more if you want to watch all the games and not just a selection), so do the math

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For them? Sure, maybe, although the top end of the fine bracket, as per the article, is 5000 eddies, so... probably won't stay cost-effective long.

But the point is the headline suggests personal use of paid pirated media is legally supported in Italy, which it's... not.

I still think the current system needs fundamental reform and while this whole ordeal doesn't say much about what is and isn't allowed in the current system, it does show what a clusterfuck of enforcement and regulation this is at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That is a fair point though honestly I don't think the end user should be on the hook at all, it should be the people providing the service as they are the ones effectively running counterfeit streaming services.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Agreed, although apparently plenty of governments don't think the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't get it, most of the streaming providers they are protecting are foreign companies, if anything piracy is keeping more money in the local economy so why go so hard on IP laws above and beyond any treaty requirements?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A main driver of this was Mediaset, which is actually Italian. Seriously, the article is right there. I didn't know about it before I read it, either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes but that is still one company which I doubt is a massive contributor to GDP. However upon reading more about it it seems it's linked to Berlusconi so I'm guessing that its a case of corruption with these laws serving to protect personal profits?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Mediaset is a proper multibillion dollar multinational media conglomerate. It is not the one rich guy wanting to protect their investment, any more than Disney dictating the details of US copyright law is. Diney, incidentally, also a player in this conversation.

Lobbying doesn't happen based on percentage of GDP, friend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You have to be a special kind of stupid to pay for this kind of service with your personal card. But if you get caught a second time then I can't have any sympathy for you.

This situation reminds me of that drug dealer (always in italy) that accepted payments for his merch using his own POS (idk the word in English, it's one of those terminals to accept payments with cards).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

POS is an English acronym. It stands for Point of Sale. The proper term would usually be POS Terminal, but it's often shortened to POS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

TIL. In Italian it's used as a word (not an acronym) to refer to those devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Does Italian have a certain way to pronounce acronyms? Plenty are pronounced in English. Eg: laser

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I'm not native italian so take this with a grain of salt. All the acronyms I've heard in italian are pronounced as you would pronounce that word if it was Italian. Weirdly enough, they include a lot of English words (not acronyms) in their daily vocabulary and they pronounce those in English.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They used their personal prepaid card (one registered to their own name and issued by the public postal service) to pay for the iptv sub.

Happy as I am because this shows that there is no crime in watching those streams, I can't but stand in awe at the sheer stupidity of these guys.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

Justice prevails!