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Forgive the question, I have an idea of what I want to run on it (jellyfin, sonarr, etc) but I am having a hard time figuring out optimal OS to run.
Windows? Linux? Something else? Any beginner advice is welcome!
Linux for sure. Whatever distro seems cool to you.
Thanks! Any specific distro you enjoy using?
You can’t go wrong with Ubuntu, or kubuntu if you like kde.
I specifically enjoy NixOS but I wouldn't recommend it to beginners as the documentation isn't great and the distro works differently from all other distros.
I would recommend linux mint.
My useless advice: Do it in phases as you learn.
Years ago I used to run a linux server with everything installed under Apache virtual directories and fought the constant upgrade cycle. Life got in the way and I gave up on it until the pandemic slowed life down enough for me to start playing again. So I went the Yunhost route on an old Mac Mini. I now have a 3 node Proxmox cluster with Yunhost in a VM (with a dozen apps running on it) and another 15-20 containers running under either lxc or docker. I eventually purchased a cheap NAS device for data storage so that I could make use of the Proxmox fail over capabilities.
If your mini pc has the capability for two drives, install the OS on one and store data on the other (unless/until you get a second pc/NAS).
I wouldn't do Windows, Linux will give you freedom to use docker for most things that you might want to host. As for which distro use whatever you find nice, there's not going to be much difference. Some of the things people are suggesting are great for extremely advanced use cases, for just spinning up some services whatever you feel more comfortable would be best.
I recommend debian 12 works like charm
I have been on this path (10+ years in)
I learned the most with Proxmox (and ZFS), everything in LXCs.
But I enjoy the pure Debian install with Docker containers the most!
Ps: do not, I repeat, do not install a desktop OS. Pps: stay away from Ubuntu ;)
Actually, my NAS is on Ubuntu Server and it's pretty good!
Yeah, the server variant is usable. But why not just Debian server instead?
I’d recommend Debian Linux. It’s free, stable, has all the software you’ll need with long term support, ton of online resources and communities to learn from. You can start with or without UI.
I highly recommend Ubuntu Desktop for homelab stuff.
I recently set up my self-hosted system and went down this path:
Ubuntu Server - decided against it because terminal only is tedious sometimes
Ubuntu Desktop - easy, popular (so more documentation), comes ready with Docker
Decided to use Yacht for my container manager and have been happy with it so far, super simple compared to other options out there but you still have the control you need
current containers:
I definitely want to add to this list. I want to get some stuff behind a VPN and sail the open seas to fill out my plex server, I just want to make sure I am being as safe as possible.
Thanks for the input! How did you get started with Yacht? I looked into it a bit and am not 100% sure on how it helps with the homelab setup.
Personally..... Id spin up a Ubuntu desktop instance for Jellyfin and Sonarr. I went through a few different operating systems before I went back to Ubuntu and....it just works. Lots of documentation on installing those services that way. Jellyfin is very happy behind Sonarr... I'd stay away from Windows for any kind of selfhosting because I don't trust them
Why desktop? Server boots faster and cleaner, and the machine is slated to be serving anyway.
No op, but I did the server first and then switched to desktop for the sole reason of wanting to click on some things instead of terminal only
Never give up a chance to learn something new.
I had issues getting hardware acceleration working on server.....but, I guess that isn't a issue on a mini pc
Also with them being new Desktop offers a lot of tools and easier to navigate. However I do a minimal install not a full one
What's easier to navigate than a CLI?
proxmox and then you can run either LXC containers directly on it or VMs when necessary. Almost anything linux-based can be in a container on proxmox and has no need for an actual VM. I have a mini cluster of 3 proxmox servers running jellyfin, all and the -arrs, nzbget, nginx, searxng, pihole, ombi, seaweedfs, streammaster, dizquetv, syncthing, nitter, teddit, piped, vaultwarden, changedetector, freshrss, headscale, rimgo, nextcloud, ntfy, quetre, uptime kuma, homeassistant, kavita, scribe, nzbget and a Windows Server VM. The stuff could all run on one of them, but I like to be able to move stuff around since the 3 instances are not all the same. One is an older server that I've had forever. One is about 5 years old, but has 32GB of RAM and 60+TB of disk. The new one has 64GB and an SSD that will do about 7GB/s.
Have a look at Proxmox.
I would never want anything else anymore as the base system on a server.
Proxmox with a bunch of small dedicated lxc containers (running small Ubuntu lxcs mostly). It works for me anyway, though I don't use any of the rr programs. My Plex lxc gets its Media files from an openmediavault NFS mount (Running in a VM instead of lxc), and I use smb file sharing for my windows desktop to access the same files. Your mileage may vary, what works for me night not be for someone else.
I get where the people saying Proxmox are coming from but realistically, this is a mini-computer and the setup doesn’t need to be that sophisticated. Running Linux will go a long way, slapping Docker containers on there for things.
If you're super new to all of this, check out Yunohost. You can either run it on Debian 11 or use their own OS image. Its a simple UI interface and makes apps deployable with one click. Doesn't support everything but I have this running beside my docker just because it's so dang easy to use and maintain.
I might roll with this configuration. Only problem has been getting the Yunohost image to work via thumbdrive. Might go the Debian 11 to Yunohost route.
Should work fine, just install Debian itself to the thumbdrive.
Sounds like you’re just starting out. If you’re not yet familiar with Linux there’s a lot guides out there to set this up & it won’t take take long. It’s when things go wrong it can be frustrating as it possible there won’t be a guide for your specific issue & it can be time consuming to figure it out.
You could start just using windows if that pc came with it. It’ll enable you fast track the fun of building & populating the media server.
Over time you’ll discover the limitations of windows, start researching the alternatives & have plenty of time to pick something else while enjoying what you’ve already setup.
My vote is also on Proxmox. I also started out with a mini PC about 6 months ago and installed proxmox. It has a few quirks regarding its disk usage you have to get used to, but its UI and setting up of VMs and LXC containers is so simple, you do not need any manual. You can easily build and tear down linux machines and play around with them. You cannot run docker images directly, but I use an LXC ubuntu container to run them, works flawlessly.