let's watch an unreliable narrator get sympathy from a bunch of lowlifes primed to project their own axe to grind towards a community that excludes their toxic asses
If you have information that contradicts OP's narrative, by all means, share it. Otherwise you're just trolling.
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They posted a crosspost link on .ml to the stardew valley comm they created, contradicting their complaint about getting banned
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The mod log says they were banned for breaking the rule against bigotry
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The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, you fucking moron, not the person casting doubt on it
Just on a personal note, you're a fucking idiot for taking a story like this on face value when even in the OP's text the actual reason for the ban isn't touched on. It's amazing how poor your critical thinking skills are.
They posted a crosspost link on .ml to the stardew valley comm they created, contradicting their complaint about getting banned
There's no contradiction between complaining about having one account banned and cross-posting with another.
So cut off the crap. You aren't fooling anyone here.
The mod log says they were banned for breaking the rule against bigotry [rule 1]
And I'm calling bullshit on the stated reason why .ml
banned OP. More on that later.
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, you fucking moron, not the person casting doubt on it
Epistemically speaking the burden of the proof falls on both, since you're "conveniently" omitting that you didn't just "cast doubt" towards OP's claims - you also did your own claims there, by implying that the ban was to exclude [ipsis ungulis] "their toxic asses" from the community. (Whatever "toxic" means.)
On a moral level though? OP is defending themself. Have you ever heard about presumption of innocence?
In both cases, you still need to back up your claim. Now at least try to pretend to be a decent person, and do it, instead of running again with tail between legs.
Just on a personal note, you’re a fucking idiot for taking a story like this on face value when even in the OP’s text the actual reason for the ban isn’t touched on. It’s amazing how poor your critical thinking skills are.
My sides went into orbit. That's specially hilarious coming from someone who shows blatant gullibleness towards the reasons stated in the .ml modlog.
But let's roll with it. Contrariwise to your assumption = bullshit, I don't trust OP's narrative due to lack of critical thinking skills. I trust what OP is saying here because it's extremely consistent with what I've personally observed as a former .ml user who used to mod two comms there:
The .ml admin team, as a team*, has the same reading skills of a potato, is often prone to witch hunting and assumptive behaviour (consistent with this case), and uses "rule 1" (bigotry) and "rule 2" (unwelcoming behaviour) as catch-all for "we want a bullshit reason to get rid of this poster". And it never admits when it fucked up.
If you want evidences of that, just go dig on the defederation of ani.social, where the admin team distorted the concept of child sexual abuse material to [unnecessarily] justify it. Or I can come up with the modlog of one of the comms I used to moderate there. Your choice.
*I'd gladly give you names. But I don't know if it's allowed here.
While I can appreciate how much effort you put into the affectation of the appearance of intelligence, and how well you've internalized "more words = more good" as a writing style, I observe that you are still a dumb motherfucker who should just keep their idiot mouth shut. In addition to being a terminally online 'internet tough guy' without any experience talking to real people.
Epistemically speaking the burden of the proof falls on both, since you're "conveniently" omitting that you didn't just "cast doubt" towards OP's claims - you also did your own claims there, by implying that the ban was to exclude [ipsis ungulis] "their toxic asses" from the community. (Whatever "toxic" means.)
Basic reading comprehension: I was calling you and the rabble of .world accounts toxic.
Have you ever heard about presumption of innocence?
Yeah, I've heard of it. Where did you hear of it? In a court system? Not on a private forum the owners of which can decide who they want to join or not?
Again, I'm not calling you a fucking moron frivolously. You're a fucking moron.
gullibleness
The word is "gullibility"
lol
If you want evidences of that, just go dig on the defederation of ani.social, where the admin team distorted the concept of child sexual abuse material to [unnecessarily] justify it.
Ordinarily I wouldn't expect someone to brag about moderating a pedophile instance.
This concludes my response titled "Why you're too much of a stupid piece of shit to engage with seriously"
[Note for other users: since the other user is simply grasping at straws with argumenta ad hominem, and there's zero valid argumentation, I'll have my fun at his expense.]
While I can appreciate how much effort you put into the affectation of the appearance of intelligence [implied: "lvxferre is pretending to be intelligent"]
"Oh noes! How does someone DARE to disagree with Our Holy King AntiOutsideAktion? They must be stupid!"
...or perhaps I'm intelligent enough to not fall for your obvious bullshit. Not that this is some achievement, because I bet that even a dog could do it.
and how well you’ve internalized “more words = more good” as a writing style
If my verbosity deeply offends your precious, oh-so-precious sensibilities and your entitlement to abridged content, well... I don't care.
Now let's see if you have some actual argumentation or if you'll keep whining [yes] this shitty ad hominem. (Onwards "AAH")
I observe that you are still a dumb motherfucker who should just keep their idiot mouth shut.
Nope, it's still AAH.
And bossing me around to "waaah! shut up! shut up!!! ~~I'm going to cry if you don't shut up!~~" is ineffective, by the way.
Basic reading comprehension: I was calling you and the rabble of .world accounts toxic.
I.e. you were using a non-descriptive weasel label that can be used to justify everything and nothing at the same time, to whine at LW users and me, because you have the same intellectual honesty of a hypothetical child of Elon Musk and a genderbent Spez, and can't back up your claim.
But no, something must be wrong. People aren't laughing at your shitty arguments because they're bloody stupid. No - it must be because they're stupid!
Yeah, I’ve heard of it. Where did you hear of it? In a court system? Not on a private forum the owners of which can decide who they want to join or not?
Oh look, the Musk x Spez child never heard about moral values. ...and suddenly your babble makes a lot of sense.
Again, I’m not calling you a fucking moron frivolously. You’re a fucking moron.
"Again, I'm not calling you a fucking moron frivolously. You dare to disagree with me, even if reality magically bends around my belly button and makes even my inane and immoral shit become true, As if By Magic®"
AAH still ongoing... *yawns*
The word is “gullibility”
Yeah, nah. The word "gullibleness" is registered at least in Wiktionary, WordHippo, bab.la, and the spelling corrector that I'm using.
Next time that you want to prescribe against the usage of some specific word, at least make sure that the word isn't actually valid. Otherwise you'll keep making a fool of yourself. Although... by this comment, it's clear that you're willing to be the laughing stock of everyone here, right?
But hey. Let's pretend, for a tiny moment, that your prescription held some merit here. Ah, my bad if my L3 English offends your sensibilities! I forgot that Lemmy is supposed to be the WASP e-Lebensraum, and that you're expected to have native tier proficiency! Mayocide is threatening me and I must fight against it!
lol
Yeah, I've already noticed that you're braindead. You don't need to reinforce it.
Ordinarily I wouldn’t expect someone to brag about moderating a pedophile instance.
Finally, you found something else than argumenta ad hominem! I'm so proud of you!
And it's still a fallacy. Changing goalposts - since the bullshit claim that ani.social contains CSAM is too stupid even for you, you're now claiming that it's a "paedophile instance".
Stop making shit up. Not even the individual .ml admins agree with each other about it. It's just that one is too stubborn to admit that he was wrong (he does the same all the time in LG), and there's another [not in the linked conversation] clapping to what the stubborn one does.
(Blame still goes to the admin team as an entity.)
This concludes my response titled “Why you’re too much of a stupid piece of shit to engage with seriously”
You do realise that, if you did this in your own home instance, you'd be correctly banned, right? You're supposed to disengage without arguing. (Or trying to, in your case.)
That without even considering the blatant linguistic prejudice that you showed in this comment.
"You could've gone to sleep without that." - local saying.
WHEN WILL YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKERS UNDERSTAND AN AD HOMINEM ISNT "WHEN YOU GET INSULTED"? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST FOR SOMEONE WHO LIKES TO THINK YOURE INTELLECTUAL, YOU'D THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO PRETEND YOU'RE CURIOUS FOR LONG ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY LEARN BASIC ASS SHIT.
Bigotry? When? I didn't say anything bad
Your comments were all deleted and I trust the admins of .ml more than a day old account that was banned instantly for Rule 1 violations after trying to take over a comm.
Did you take screenshots?
I don't have screenshots. Sadly :( but you can see them on Modlog I guess.
I saw the thread. You're 100% in the wrong here.
I trust the admins of .ml more than a day old account that was banned instantly for Rule 1 violations after trying to take over a comm.
"I'm gullible towards people in a position of power, once they say that they're communists."
I'm a communist too. (Seriously) Trust me, you should go lick a cactus.
Serious now. You don't even need to trust me, or anyone here. Just pay attention to .ml
modlogs and take your own conclusions.
Also, when sharing shit in the dunk tank, remember rule #1.
Werent you the guy talking about grasping at straws? You're now inventing a position the other hasn't even claimed to approachh. This is the reason you're being called stupid as fuck.
The reason for trusting moderators of .ml has jack shit to do with the ideology of the instance, you just decided to infer that because you're a big idiot ass stupid baby and I bet you smell like shit too.
Ml has become a sespool of bigots and propagandists like hexbear so you're better off just leaving.
I was recently banned for calling someone who was calling for the death of all Americans an idiot.
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms