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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I am not convinced any significant number of people voted for Trump because they supported Palestine. Feels like a massive straw man meant to stoke divisions in the left.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (12 children)

No, they didn't, but I think a lot of people didn't vote for Harris who otherwise would have

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

None of them voted for Trump. You can look at the voting numbers. Trump's numbers are pretty much in line with what he got in 2020. He didn't gain votes she lost them. People stayed home.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Staying home this election was a vote for Trump. Hope they like it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

It's really sad. It's really sad that reality has no effect on the people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (41 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why should we accept genocide as normal? I don’t get it? Is it because it is happening to Arabs?

At least now we know many Democratic voters are just as racist as Republican voters just tacit about it

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (54 children)

I'm just gonna keep hammering this in for a while. 81 million Democrats voted in 2020, but only 71 million this year. Trump won by 3.5 million. But hey, at least all you righteous little angels aren't "complicit in genocide", right? Think about that while you polish your halos. YOU did this.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBJoj4XyFc

I linked this higher in this thread, but I need everyone to watch Jon Stewart's post-mortem on Harris' campaign. Like y'all are blaming EVERYTHING on pro-Palestinians, while not even acknowledging the republican-lite ads and interviews the Democrats ran coinciding with a bunch of pro-corporate consultants that joined her campaign in September. Or the fact that a segment of the population doesn't like Trump, but is also racist/sexist enough to not want a black woman as president either.

Lemmy thinks they're smarter than the MAGA crowd, but fall for neoliberal corporate sponsored propaganda instead. First it was hispanic men, then it was Gen Z, now it's Palestine supporters. Meanwhile 57% of white people as a demographic voted for Trump, and MSNBC nor Fox News has nothing to say about that.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The Dems could have forced a ceasefire. The Muslim contingent warned them months ago and polling very clear showed that a ceasefire would have likely changed the result in several critical swing states.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (12 children)

This was the second highest turnout in a hundred years. In the seven swing states turnout either met or exceeded 2020. This is not an interesting point.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago (83 children)

I have the feeling that since the vote is over, a lot fewer people are here to defend their "ron't vote for harris because palestine" stance. Like something was switched off...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wasn't it something like 11% of Democratic primary voters that checked the box for "uncommitted" to signify that they weren't willing to vote for genocide? (Might have been 11% in one state, I'm not sure, but the 'uncommiteds' were a big enough number for MSM reporting.)

Seems to me like Dems had plenty of time and motivation to change their political stance on the issue.

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