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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Four options:

  • He's finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life
  • Natural death/diagnosis of dementia
  • He's voted out
  • He's elected and someone with better aim tries their luck
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Voting him out will not remove him from your feed. You will hear about how the election was stolen again. About how his disciples tried to destroy the capitol or the white house or whatever, again. You will hear about how he was out on trial again. You will hear about whatever new crap he comes up with.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Peak liberalism.

Imagine thinking that once the loudest symptom of fascism is no longer visible, the decades long multibillion dollar Republican project to undemocratically seize power just goes away. That all the structural issues with America go away.

Big “We want to go back to brunch” energy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We’re trying! Sadly we are wedged between two factions that are hell-bent on getting him elected.

One, purposefully- the other, ignorantly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Agree with the sentiment for sure, but would also add that a lot of Americans like him, they LIKE what he said, he was heavily supported at last count. Even now he is supported substantially.

That is something many people need to think about. What happens next election? He won't be the last.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Others don't seem to have the hold over those clowns as he does. Meatball Ron fell flat. Vance wouldn't maintain this level of support for 5 minutes. Hawley can't. Horse face green is just a clown and not a serious candidate.

I think his losing again would snap some people out of it.

I think the party would bail on him. Especially if he causes losses down the ballot. They won't back him for another election.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

“Dear ~~USA~~ conservatives…”

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

lol no: Trump will keep running until he dies and Ds will keep using him as a bogeyman

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

sadly, voting him out does not erase him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking, "Wait, we can vote him out of existence?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

if we cannot incarcerate, exile him. let him go crying back to putin and see how accepted hell be

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's amusing that Trump can't see that Putin will drop him as soon as his usefulness ends, just like Trump does to people who support him (Giuliani, for example).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

i hope thats what happens to him when he gets there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We would be happy to see him running from prison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

he would still be eligible to assume the office from there so no thanks

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Anyone who thinks Trump is the sole problem and that him being out of the news will solve all the problems is clueless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That was not the claim. Just that Trump news are nasty and Trump is one of the few Republicans who has enough charisma to end up in the news. If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background. It means the Republicans need a new leader and whoever that is, is probably going to fail.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background.

By no means. That's what people thought in 2020, and look what happened.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I know what you're saying. That the environment that gave us Trump would still exist. Sure. All the issues, both illegitimate (white resentment, racism, propaganda) and legitimate (wealth disparity, disillusioning political figures, late stage capitalistic despair), would still remain.

But that also gives too little importance to Trump's unique place in this. He is a uniquely cynical, sociopathic trigger that is exploiting this populist anger, while being so incompetent that he fails to solve any of those issues underlying it.

He thus is simultaneously perpetuating those issues, while feeding off of them - both creating and burning the fuel of populist anger. DeSantis, Vance, Hawley, all the other toe-headed power-simps who would step in to take his place would fail to hold that paradoxical balance for long - they think they can learn it, but Trump is built for it. That is Trump's unique skill, his singularly destructive, delusional, sociopathic egomania.

Like a wildfire - yes, when there are dry hot conditions, many things could start one. But it's also true that you may have been almost through the dry, hot season when a wildfire hits. And if you could have prevented that first fateful spark a week - maybe a day - longer, you could have avoided catastrophe and tragedy.

I think that's where we were in 2016, and we failed to contain it. It spread so far, that we were barely able to contain it in 2020. But if we can avoid it in 2024, if we can prevent Trump from sparking another wildfire, maybe the season could change.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Also, if they think he'll just fuck off if he loses, they've not been paying any fucking attention..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

I can't wait to see what he does when he loses.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago

i'm doing my part!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago

The problem isn't Trump (in this case), the problem is social media. Get off social media. Find better alternatives. Even at the best of times, when are people ever having a civil conversation about art, movies, music, etc?

I don't use apps unless they allow creation of block lists. My news RSS app has loads of keywords blocked (including Trump, Harris, etc). My Lemmee block list is huge. Items like this post get through when they don't trigger my keywords, but this makes me think I really should add on "USA".

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