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Okay the title is a bit exaggerated, but honestly not far off. This post is very mundane and a bit long, but thought it fits the community.

I'm visiting my home country and went shopping for pants, there were "30% off everything!" signs with a tiny text underneath that said "member discount" (don't have membership). Not a problem, did not notice and I don't care for such marketing tricks to get you into the store but okay.

Picked up couple of pants, went to the cashier and they asked me "do you have our membership?" - I answered no and expected the follow up question whether I'd like to join, but, to my positive surprise the cashier just happily responded "okay, not a problem!" and continued to bag my stuff.

I stood ready to pay and then the cashier said "now I just need your phone number and you can pay". Hold up. What. I did not expect that, I honestly had a burst of anger inside me (never gonna take it on a cashier, they are just doing their job). I asked nicely why do I need to give my phone number and I was told that to register me as a member so I can get the discount.

I declined and said I don't want to join and would like to just pay.

The entire interaction after questioning why they need my phone number was awkward, as if I had been the first person to decline, the weirdo, aluminum foil hat wearing hermit.

This was just one of many interactions in the recent years that make me feel as if I was a weirdo for not sharing all my info around. The worst is when everyone keeps telling me "its just an app, just download it and use that why do you make things complicated" or "just sign up you don't need to pay anything".

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I encountered this in a computer club (I mean the place where you play per hour to play computer games on a good PC if you lack a suitable one at home). The accounts there were using phone numbers as usernames, and apparently if one is used, it would have to be verified. However, after refusing I was just given one-time accounts every time (with a random string of digits as the username), I just couldn't save unspent time for another visit so had to pay precisely. Funnily enough, the host herself the first time mentioned one-time phone number rental services for this reason)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Best not to overthink it - The sales clerk is trained to ask for this stuff.

Luckily most times I encounter this I just tell them no I don't have a phone number with them & continue checkout like normal. Sometimes that means not getting a sale price on something but usually I avoid those type of member-specific sales anyway.

And worst case - Just make something up. At Best Buy a sales rep absolutely refused to sell me something from the mobile dept without my info. Which didn't make sense because earlier I had bought something at that same Best Buy with a different rep & that rep took my order without my info no problem (she said she had to enter a phone number but just entered Best Buy's).

Yet this particular sales rep refused to proceed without info, so yeah he got an entire fictional name/address/phone/email on the spot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Yeah at no point was I mad at the clerk and didn't show it at all that I was boiling inside, because its just their job and they have no say in it.

Haven't tried to say I don't have a number or come up with a fake number, but read this in the thread earlier and will probably give it a try next time!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

A long time ago they wanted a phone number for me to get a hair cut. She looked at me like I was crazy when I said no.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

"But then how am I going to harass you endlessly for years to come?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

That woman needs to get psychiatric treatment lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I realized a few years ago that my GF inadvertently solved this issue for me: She likes registering for anything that provides a discount, so I use her phone number.

"Are you a member?"
"Nope, but my GF probably is..", and 90% of the time I am correct.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

When I was younger and lived at home we had "family accounts". When I went to a store I picked up the "family card" and used that. So similar experience!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

My wife is the same way. She doesn't care so I just use her phone number for everything. But then she wonders why she gets more spam calls than me...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I asked nicely why do I need to give my phone number and I was told that to register me as a member so I can get the discount.

I declined and said I don’t want to join and would like to just pay.

I've just said "I don't have one" when asked this for awhile. This never seems the phase the cashiers, I'm guessing they know what that really means. Half the time I still get whatever discount, though I've never tried to sign up for a membership saying that.

If it's an online form my phone number is just (local area code)555–5555. I've never had that not take, except for one case where it automatically enabled 2-factor auth and I had to create a new account.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Damn, should've tried that! Thanks for the tip!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Here it's similar. I've found out that if to the question

do you have our membership?

I respond "No, thank you", they often understand correctly and don't assume I want to set one up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Now I know! I was positively surprised when they didn't ask the follow-up question, but I see now they have been trained to not ask it at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

To be fair to the cashier, they were just trying to do something nice for you and getting you a free discount. I doubt that any "training" was involved, they probably didn't think that anyone would refuse to give a phone number for a discount.

Most people wouldn't care, but I used to get so any spam calls that it wasn't worth the risk anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I usually just say "Nah, no time, just ring me up."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If you're visiting from another country, try giving them a number from there (real or fake). What are the odds that their system can cope with international codes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That could also work, if their system allows more digits than the standard digit length of their own phone numbers.

I've bumped into this issue myself when trying to fill my second phone number into input fields which require me to pass a number I actually use at the moment into systems where I do want to give them my phone number...

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