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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    This is true. I have a completely broken arch linux install right now, wine doesn't work. Only games I play are OpenTTD and Aisleriot Solitaire on my laptop.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

    OpenTTD pretty sick tho

    [–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Even before Proton Minecraft ran better on Linux than Windows

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

    I think this user has an irrational disdain or hatred of linux that causes them to believe things that aren't true, or haven't ever been true. I mean he literally created [email protected] just to post memes complaining.

    [–] [email protected] 274 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Updated for 2024 and a post Proton world.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

    Christ. Fr. I was so excited when the Asahi team started to show off Vulkan games on M1 chips. Once it’s had a bit of time in the oven I’m ripping MacOs out of an, otherwise, wonderful device for what I paid for it.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

    Do Windows 8 RT next!

    [–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    True Statement, The new macs have better gaming support on linux than macOS

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Are we talking about the M3 chips? Or the last intel? Because these are not the same.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Were talking about m serie, the fps may not be amazing but macos cant run windows games like linux can. When every wwdc apple just shows off some game they paid a metric crap ton to get it ported. Which isnt really gaming, if your selection is like 5 games.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    That's so false.. That's like saying the only games Windows can run is Halo and whatever crap is in the Windows Store. Steam has thousands of out-of-the-box compatible games and Crossover helps cover many other games.

    Before I got I rebuild my Linux gaming PC (watercooling shenanigans) I gamed for a solid year on MacOS. I played Baldur's Gate 3 on release for Windows through Crossover, was on my second play through when official Mac support dropped. I've played Civ 5 & 6 with friends. I've made many cities in Cities Skylines. I played FF7 Remake again. Even for old 32-bit Windows games like Touhou 6 run with minor tweaking.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    Hey, nobody disputes that.

    Doesn't mean macOS has a comparable portfolio of games it runs. Proton just works better than crossover or Whiskey or whatever.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

    I guess I didn't clarify, but there comment from the previous user had stated that on the new M Series chips that running Linux is better for gaming on those devices (ala Asahi Linux).

    No doubt Proton on normal x86 Linux PCs is great. My primary desktop and ROG Ally has been painless (aside from some old games that have issues regardless of OS).

    But Proton is still buggy on Asahi Linux (support was literally announced a week ago or so). Meanwhile of the games I run on Steam, only a handful needed Crossover or Whiskey for macOS.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

    Unsurprising since Proton is optimized by Valve specifically for playing games. Crossover, Wine, and Whiskey are more general purpose. They will work fine and can be optimized and tweaked, but Proton will work better out of the box.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Crossover is the commercial version of the code behind proton, developed by the same company. It doesn't work as well on Mac as on Linux. Since "Like Linux but worse" is exactly the point you're responding to, so you're pretty much in agreement with them?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

    What Steamymoomilk had stated previously is that Linux on Apple Silicon is better than macOS for gaming. But Proton support is not only a very new feature to Asahi Linux but also still has issues.

    x86 Linux > macOS (with or without Crossover) > Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon macs (what the previous commenter said was better than macOS).

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Try Whisky! It uses Wine and has conversion for the Apple graphics layer. It runs some games you can’t get running otherwise.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    It works OK. Steam itself is super sluggish under it.

    Native Steam + Proton is just better.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

    How do you do that on a Mac? I didn’t think it supported the proton layer on other platforms.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

    I knew booze was the only way to make using a Mac bearable.

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    [–] [email protected] 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It's even worse than you think.

    He will become... An engineer.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

    I miss the Dilbert cartoons.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I can attest to that. Parents tried Linux to prevent me from gaming. Learned to dual boot first, got into security and Linux later and am engineer today. N+=1

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

    parents in the background going "Our plan was a succes"

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

    with a stack of slackware 3.5" installation media next to it...

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago
    [–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Is that Tom Scott from the future?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

    New head-canon accepted

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

    It's Linus Torvalds.

    [–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Then the kid installs Proton and your keikaku* fails miserably.

    *TN: keikaku means plan.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

    Haha, try installing anything on NixOS before learning how to program

    [–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I think the plan is more that he'll be so busy coonfing to optimize his userspace that he'll have no time to game.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

    Arch Linux’s time to shine

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    It comes with Steam by default and is automatically used out of the box when a native linux version of the game isn't found.

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    [–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I played so much supertuxkart in middle school, then got pretty good at figuring out how to configure wine to make everything work in high school, and now as an adult wine has gotten so good that I just click on whatever I want to play on steam and 90% of the time it just works flawlessly, I don't even always remember which games are native and which are running in wine these days.

    Anyway yeah, using linux never made me spend less time playing games

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

    Supertuxkart is one of the best games that I've ever played.
    Mostly because it has a multiplayer mode. Much more than LAN multiplayer, it had options to map controls for the 2nd player on the same keyboard.
    Used it to play with my relatives and it was fun.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

    Plan failed, the kid read the man pages and stackoverflow

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I think a friend of mine would be delighted to have his children play video games.

    They are only consuming [tiktock, yt, other social media].

    I think he rather wants his children beating Red Alert campaign, than cpnsum 10s tiktocks.

    Modding your first game, opening condigs ans inis, because key-remapping wasn't a thing...all the gateways to interact with file system.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

    I plan to teach my son how to mod consoles and play retro games on them 😂

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Learning how to edit config.sys to get sound working without internet help was a rite of passage for many.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

    The first time I knew I wanted to hack the planet was when I figured out how to edit a config file in Castles II: Siege and Conquest which let me start with max gold and resources so I could finally conquer the entire map and make that smug fucking pope eat my entire ass.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

    I think the only game that's given me a hard time with linux is Call of Duty

    And that's not to say that you couldn't get it to work, it was just more than one click to set up so I couldn't be bothered.

    Honestly, probably better of without CoD anyway

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