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Edit: Thanks for all the great feedback and suggestions. I decided to create a new #VM in #Proxmox and install [#Yunohost](https://kbin (media.kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Edit: Thanks for all the great feedback and suggestions. I decided to create a new #VM in #Proxmox and install #Yunohost so I can try a few different options and see which ones I like and end up using to migrate my current accounts.

Edit 2:
Having #Yunohost behind #Pfsense #Haproxy is giving me trouble, not sure how to proxy_pass on it to avoid issues with double reverse proxy. I will try to run my instances directly from Docker and see if that goes better.

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I am fairly new to the Fediverse, but have been in IT and homelab for over a decade, I am thinking or migrating from my current instances and just creating my own instances of Kbin and Mastodon for my personal use only.

Any suggestions or ideas?
Any reasons you would not recommend it?
Security concerns?

Besides Mastodon and Kbin, any other fediverses I should self-host (I thought of Lemmy but it seems I'd be able to subscribe and interact with it just fine through kbin. Also thought of peertube, but unsure or pros/cons since I have not yet even signed up on one of their instances).

Also, 1 shared VM for all of the instances, or 1 for each? I am considering if full VM or LXC, the LXC would be faster and consume less resources but I'm concerned with the security of the host.

Anyway, those are my thoughts, would like some feedback.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@techviator maybe check out calckey aswell - realy fun and feature rich

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@techviator Hey, I've been using kbin on a single instance for a long time. It has been a refreshing experience, and I think is really well suited for it. Currently, it may even work better than on large instances.

Of course, it is an early version, and there are many concerns, including those related to security, we are actively working on addressing them.

However if you have a bit of paitence, create a sandbox environment, and make frequent backups, it should be fine ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ernest Thanks for the feedback! I've been reading and learning a lot. I am starting to get a better grasp of the Fediverse. Will definitely be playing soon with selfhosting an instance or two for myself and family.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@techviator If I were to advise you, you should try #YunoHost. With just a few clicks, you can explore various platforms. I hope kbin will be there soon too :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@ernest Yunohost was a great suggestion, installing it right now in a brand new VM. I'll play with a lot of the applications and see which ones I like best. Thanks for that I wasn't even aware of it.

I hope Kbin makes it there soon too. I like this interface better than Lemmy as a reddit replacement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Now this is a fine idea, and negates some of the fears I have about losing my personal data if the instance I support has an issue....

I'm gonna search for a docker container for lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it similarly possible to migrate from lemmy or kbin instances akin to Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Trekman10 not sure on kbin but I don't think so. On lemmy it's not possible for sure. But that's why I want to begin now, I only have a few comments on each, and this is my first post. I was part of the twitter and now reddit migrations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am happy with both this (my account's) lemmy instance and the Mastodon instances I've found, and similarly I joined each during the exodus from Twitter and Reddit, back in November and now June respectively.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have my Mastodon instance broken out into docker containers running on one of my "beefy" servers in my homelab. I don't regret setting it up at all, but I'm glad I've resisted lemmy/kbin/etc. With Mastodon, I don't feel any guilt about keeping it to myself, and having no anxiety about someone losing content. I tend to feel like if someone is creating content on a platform I own, I have an obligation to treat it with respect, as opposed to how I feel about my own content.

Here's the (excellent) guide I followed (mostly).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@GeekyOnion Thanks! That's really helpful!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hey heres a few things to know when selfhosting fedi instances:

make sure you use a dns-proxy
if you can afford the overhead, each instance types should be virtualized separately
each instace type needs its own subdomain
look into fediblock
take lots of backups

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@vibrantleaf Thanks! Just the kinds of info I was looking for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought about this, too, but decided to hold off for now.

The problem I see is that a bunch of the popular instances are already struggling to keep up with the influx of new users, so asking them to spend extra resources on federation with my server (which wouldn't be serving more than a couple of people) seems like it would make their capacity problems worse.

I might do it once things settle down from the Reddit exodus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@ono there are relay services to help with that. I am going that route.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On this topic, I now stumbled upon Friendica, it seems it can federate with pretty much everything else, not sure about the Facebook kind of UI, but there seem to be different templates.

Anyone has experience with it? Pros or cons?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard of it, and have long hoped for a reason to use it but if its meant to be a FB replacement I don't really use FB aside from a couple groups and I can't imagine any of my friends there wanting to join Friendica

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Trekman10 I get that, but it seems it federates with Mastodon, Lemmy, Diaspora, Peertube and many other platforms, kind of having one account to rule them all... LOL

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