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so a common claim I see made is that arch is up to date than Debian but harder to maintain and easier to break. Is there a good sort of middle ground distro between the reliability of Debian and the up-to-date packages of arch?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fedora is pretty good there, but I wouldnt use the DNF variants.

The atomic variants though totally rock. Atomic Desktops, IoT, etc.

The atomic model deals with all the troubles you would have with so new packages.

OpenSUSE slowroll would be a better middle-ground, but I have had strange broken packages and they dont have a useful atomic model, as it is not image-based.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The downside with the Atomic variants is that ostree is much slower and takes additional storage and bandwidth. It isn't half bad if you are willing to reboot but it does add an additional layer of complexity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really need to try NixOS, it may be good?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is very complicated for little value add. I would much rather use Ansible or bash scripting.

Ansible is useful in particular as it is much more repeatable and you can use Ansible pull to pull from a git repo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The thing is package management, resettability, rebasing/redeploying with a config file, and avoiding config file creep.

I broke 10 distros before, and of course I also learned, but I simply didnt break Fedora Atomic Desktops in 2 years or so.

But I layer about 20 packages, which is not a really nice process on Atomic, while it works for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use Fedora silver blue and it is mostly solid. However, it isn't something I would jump into without an interest in immutable Linux or embedded systems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I think Silverblue is the perfect distro for random computers you never manage.

Actually uBlue silverblue as they fix the like 5 issues there are, like an intelligent and actually automatic updater, flathub, drivers etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Slackware current.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I like the idea of a stable distro as the host OS and Distrobox with Arch and the AUR for applications.

For most of my machines, I do not need the latest kernel or even the latest desktop environment. But it is a pain to have out of date desktop apps and especially dev tools.

I think this strikes a nice balance.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Arch is not harder to maintain nor is it easier to break, that's a myth. If anything, it's the opposite, as a rolling release stays up to date, though it relies on the user keeping it up to date. If you get lazy with updates, then yes, you are going to have problems eventually.

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