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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's going on with the rope on the front of the stone block? It looks like it's going to the taskmaster's hand, but he's standing behind the block, so that makes no sense...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The artist drew this in like five minutes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (72 children)

The communist version of this meme has someone with a whip and sword standing behind them and telling them to work for the benefit of the people or die

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

You know I'm a communist, and I'd actually wager we would agree on your stance here if you chose better words. What you're actually advocating against is state capitalism, and we both agree it's a horrific and unjust system.

Something I've noticed about "anti-communists" is they absolutely love taking the USSR, CCP, and DPRK at their word for what they are. When they describe themselves as communist/socialist, you take it as an undeniable fact.

Do you think the DPRK is a democratic republic? It's in the name. Of course you don't, because it'd be ridiculous to let an authoritarian regime change the definitions of words to mean whatever they want it to mean :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's two paths to talking with a communist. Either they're a tankie and start singing the praises of the USSR and PRC and all sorts of totalitarian hellholes, or they start talking about hypothetical economic systems and states which haven't been shown to be practically achievable. I don't say this to be a dick, man. I much prefer the utopian idealist communists over those who cheer when political dissidents are machine gunned for wanting democracy. But it still doesn't make libertarian communism a workable system, whether it's anarchic communism or democratic socialism or some other form of stateless society.

So, I am happy to be civil with you, I just fundamentally disagree about whether attempting to achieve those ideals would end well. In my opinion, it would have one of three results - anarchy and a breakdown of the economy, imposition of totalitarian rule in reaction to groups of people who don't want to give up their private property rights, or reversion to another form of economic structure, like capitalism.

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