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Surprise.

Bet you didn't see this one coming.

This week's post has been pretty late. I'm a bit troubled by yesterday's thread on Apple. So, a foreword: It's OK to prefer something over another, it's not OK to say people who like different phones than you are somehow more childish or less intelligent than you. Again, we are going for casual, yet intensely helpful here, so please don't call people names over petty reasons, we have rules here.

Previously on Lemmy:

Past Discussions:

In this post, it's not about saying how bad iPhones are, but I'd just like to hear the perspective on iPhones from Android users. I, for one, had an old iPhone 4 for a long time (call it nostalgia, or laziness, or just being cheap), and it was my general frustration with the device that ultimately led to my preference for Androids, (It was quite a while back though).

  • It was absolutely painful to transfer files from the phone to my computer (Ugh, iTunes).

  • I got it pre-jailbroken and didn't realize you can't just update the system casually, so it was really fun trying to find ways to downgrade the system until I realized that I can't and have to pray for the next jailbreak to get half my things working again.

  • The 40-pin cable wears out so fast, and always in the same spot on the strain relief. I swear I've gone through 3 of these cables in one year just from normal use.

  • All the browsers are somehow flavors of Safari. To do anything, I will have the choice of ad-filled websites, or ad-filled apps.

It always just seemed like I'm fighting against the system. Never did I have that "it just works" moment, until I've got my first Android, and realize I have the freedom to do whatever I want with it, and I can install what I want, and if there's a problem, I can look things up and fix it myself.

(Having a back button is also a game changer.)

Of course, there is a lot that Android manufacturers can learn from Apple as well, one of the most obvious one is the time for software support: I think my old iPhone has gone through like 3 version updates over the years, whereas currently I'm lucky to get 2 out of any Android manufacturer.

But it seems that Android manufacturers are more content on copying things that works for iOS, but doesn't work for Android, like removing the headphone jack. Or big notches. (It makes no sense to do that because of Android's notification system uses the full length of the bar.) It's gotten to the point that I don't think people who makes Android phones actually uses Android but are content to copy superficial features from Apple without understanding why Apple do them.

Like a bunch of lemmings. (Heh)

Again, these are my personal preferences, I have nothing against people who prefers iPhones, nor do I think they are lesser for it, but it's just not for me.

I'd use a one as a work phone/for iMessages though.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've been back and forth between Android and iOS several times, I'm happy with either these days.

I use services that work on both platforms like GMail/Cal/Contacts, Dropbox free (10GB)/oneDrive + Cryptomator, Bitwarden, 2FAS, Signal/WhatsApp, etc. There's no lock-in on either platform as far as I'm concerned and I can switch over in half an hour and keep going.

I charge my phones with an ancient 7W Qi pad, batteries usually last 3-4 years before any degradation is mildly noticeable, at which time getting a store to replace it is trivial or I sell the old phone and buy a new one - Apple/Samsung/Google, whatever takes my fancy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I got 3GS when it was new, after 1 month it was more at the service then in my pocket. I guess I was unlucky, but they replaced for a new device which died after connecting it to a cheap power bank. They said I spilled the water on it, but I didnt. Looking at USB cable it was at the end of the life after short time. Im sure I was unlucky and I believe many things changed in meantime, but Ill never buy iphone again. Never had bad experience with smartphones, before or after iphone, even with low end cheap models

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is an old thread, but I thought I'd give my thoughts.

I absolutely love the Android Open Source Project. The amount of things you can do with Android are spectacular. Pixels especially are wonderful devices.

However, it's come to my attention that I think iPhones make better "Phones" than any other device.

Apple is in a unique position of having fast and sleek operating systems and software, and wonderful integration.

Homestly if you're not running privacy focused stuff, like your own homeserver, or a custom OS, or anything. Apple is the best for your privacy.

The reason I believe this is due to their implementation of their Apple TV Box. Google's TV stuff is designed first and foremost to give you advertisements, even on the home screen, and Apple does no such thing. Needless to say, I switched TV Boxes. Upon researching what Apple does with your data, I'm becoming convinced that the Apple ecosystem has become a better option for consumerist services, like social media, news, streaming, and banking.

It's not enough to make me get rid of my Android Pixel, but I've been heavily considering getting an iPhone, iPad, Watch, Mac Mini.

Powerful math tools, diagnostic tools, chatroom apps, forum apps, Signal, games, emulation, privacy tools, all mostly open source software, they'd all go on an Android Pixel running a custom OS still.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've only ever had two iPhones, my 5S, and the 13 I got from work.

All of the issues surrounding the phone are still present, and with no loss of quality in any way on Android I don't see why I'd ever choose to spend the money on something that I'm mostly paying for the name on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If Google started taking privacy and E2EE as seriously as Apple, I wouldn't even be thinking of switching over to iPhone, but now I'm thinking whether to stay with Android or switch. (also no ads would be great on Google TV/Chromecast)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Apple is winning the communications game and I'm afraid I'll wind up switching once they go usb c. I'm sick and tired of the iMessage walled garden when messaging nearly everyone I know, and also tried of the hit or miss debacle of rcs. I will miss the customization freedom (currently using Niagara launcher and it's super unique ux), but Android phones have deleted all of the other benefits that separated them from iPhones, like expandable storage, ir blasters, headphone jacks, etc. I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I'm sick of waiting for this all to be worked out. Before anyone says to use signal or Whatsapp, etc, it just isn't a standard here in the US. Folks will never switch off iMessage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think having Sup. will change that, since you can tell them "Hey, check out this cool Instagram/Twitter/reddit/Facebook thing! It also comes with this cool messager!" and they'll switch.

Hopefully.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know what you're referring to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, the maker of Pixelfed (Instagram equivalent) announced that he's making a secure messanger called "Sup." with the Signal protocol that should work for ALL Fediverse accounts (Mastodon, Lemmy/Kbin, Pixelfed, Friendica, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, really? Anywhere to follow the progress? Not a techie, and I do not understand GitHub. Lol. Mastodon account or lemmy community to follow?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://lemmy.ml/post/3697221

Dan Sup's Mastodon should have some progress, but he works on multiple projects at once.

He said the beta should be out at the end of month though.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@MargotRobbie I used iPhones for 7 years when they first came out. Almost always kept it jailbroken where possible. Eventually switched to Android and I found I could do the things out of the box, that previously required jailbreak with iPhone. Around that time, Android UX had caught up to iPhone as well. Custom app stores (F-Droid), custom launchers and more.

Eventually got sick of Android too. Now I use #lineageos (only a subtle difference) and now I feel like I actually own my smartphone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had an iPhone 12 Pro Max before my pixel fold. I love carplay compared to Android auto, the UI personally looks prettier except for the home screen layout, I like how seamless the experience can be between Apple devices, and it's nice to be on the platform that gets more attention from app devs.

But all was not perfect The past 6 months that I'd had it, it would overheat anytime you had to charge it which led to issues with carplay and such. The charger itself was a pain to have be different from my USBC devices like the MacBook, iPad, keyboard, mouse, work laptop, monitor, anyone else's phones, headphones, and literally everything else. Lastly, the lack of call screener like I'd had on my pixel 4 before it and now on my pixel fold. It's so nice having a virtual secretary

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I borrowed an old iphone 4 (or was it iphone 5? Can't tell the difference) about 7 years ago when i had to send my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact in for repair). Couldn't get it to work thw way i wanted it to. There was no way to properly configure the notifications. I think i could not have the vibration on for messages but not calls or something silly.

I also don't like being forced to install itunes just to copy music from my computer to phone. No idea if that is still the case nowadays.

There are people who like that convenience and that's ok.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Apple products are for the technologically feeble.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used Android exclusively for about 3-4 years, I was even developing ROMs, then switched to iPhone for work. I wouldn’t go back to Android. Most of the problems with iPhone don’t exist anymore.. the walls have mostly come down due to cloud based services and apps being able to use wifi to drag/drop files

IMO, iPhone is easy to use, great quality apps, great battery life, secure and best value for money. They have great resale for those people who upgrade every year, and long support for people who buy a phone every 5 years.

They just work

The Android system just seems so disjointed and the App Store is full of junk apps.

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