Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

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[–] 260 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Look, NATO is bad, that's why it's absolutely necessary for anti-imperialism purposes that Russia invades its neighbors before they can get into NATO!

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    [–] 171 points 2 years ago (49 children)

    I'd be glad if NATO didn't exist.

    It would mean countries wouldn't feel threatened by their neighbors, and no invasions would happen.

    But until that is the case, NATO is necessary.

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    [–] 142 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Sure I'm a NATO apologist: I'm sorry NATO is necessary because Russia is such an antagonistic fuckwad.

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    [–] 120 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Gentle reminder that blocking the entire Lemmy.ml instance has made this place a lot less … tankie

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Ah yes, that paragon of leftist virtue...

    ...*checks notes*...

    Muammar Gaddafi?

    And they wonder why they don't get taken seriously.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The point is not that Gaddafi was a leftist, but that NATO is an evil imperialistic offensive organisation that overthrows governments

    Of course Libya was never a NATO mission, was done by two countries (I include the UK as part of the USA at this point) that certainly could have coordinated even if NATO did not exist. France has always been the most NATO sceptical country in the union as well.

    Oh and let's not forget that blaming NATO allows them to forget the real reason France got involved there. But why would they want to distract people away from Sarkozy and his neoimperialism? Let me check what's he got to say about Ukraine... Yup, checks out

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    I got banned on a lemmy.ml sub for pointing out a post was misleading, that's it.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    People here complain about reddit mods being power tripping, but my experience on Lemmy has been equal if not worse. Ml and hexbear being obvious examples, but I've even gotten 7 or 30 days bans, with no warning, for stupid shit that I've seen plenty of other people do, in a news sub and aboringdystopia, obviously because the mod disagreed with my opinion, they were just using some minor violation of the rules to justify banning me.

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    [–] 57 points 2 years ago* (49 children)

    lol before I realized what ml meant I made a comment that I thought that communism had never happened yet on earth but that it could one day. You wouldn’t believe the rage and attack from dozens of people who were inconsolable.

    They also got mad when I said that there are only a few actual leftists in government in the US. Turns out that everyone is one, dontchano

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (29 children)

    Your first sentence is not wrong; as I understand Marx’s writing. Essentially it is not possible to go from agrarianism straight to communism without first building an industrial society. That’s how Russia / USSR, China etc don’t “technically” count.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (17 children)

    I’m referring more to the fact that Marx envisioned the populace rising up. What really rose in places like Russia and China was a group of self appointed elites who were really just reactionaries.

    Tankies get mad because they believe that their utopia already exists and everyone else is an idiot for not ascribing to the same.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Your first sentence is not wrong; as I understand Marx’s writing. Essentially it is not possible to go from agrarianism straight to communism without first building an industrial society. That’s how Russia / USSR, China etc don’t “technically” count.

    Don't worry, Lenin et co said you could do it if you believed extra super hard and gave all the power to a small clique of intellectuals. Lenin, like Jesus and the Gospels, takes precedence over prior teachings.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    "Read theory and you would know what I'm talking about."

    That is a common thought terminating response to any critique of communism. That being said, I learned to flip the table. Tankies talk about theory, so mention empirical and practical results. They tend to either shut down or ban you.

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Those... aren't even mutually exclusive opinions? NATO can exist for more than one reason.

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago (42 children)

    What happened in Libya according to them?

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  • [–] [S] 122 points 2 years ago (40 children)

    Poor Gaddafi was attacked by the corrupt NATO, to the disgust of the rest of the world (except that it was resolution by the UN security council).

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  • I’m just waiting till the deferation from lemmy.ml

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    If you ever need to have a dialogue on any subject and want a reasonable partner, don't worry - you can just have that morning coffee and you'll eventually shit out better choices than the entirety of ml, hexbear, lemmygrad and a bunch of other cuntwaffles combined.

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago (28 children)

    Time to block an instance :p

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Hard agree. The Fediverse would be much healthier if more instances defederated Hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. They constantly spread propaganda for violent dictators.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    I find Lemmy.ml users tolerable, mostly. At least, not significantly worse than other instances. It's the admins and mods that concern me. It's why I avoid .ml communities like the plague.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They love to pick and choose who to enforce their rules against.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    how dare you critize the regime comrade

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (14 children)
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