Numerous Tesla owners have said they've been stuck inside their EVs after the cars suddenly lost power.

YouTuber Tom Exton claimed that his Tesla Model Y ordered him to pull over before it suddenly lost power and left him unable to exit.

Exton followed the instructions for the manual release to open the door, but he said this "somehow broke the driver's window."

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[–] 103 points 3 years ago (36 children)

The ability to open a car door mechanically, from both inside and outside, should always be obvious, without having to find any instructions.

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  • [–] 53 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Yeah, how is this not illegal? This seems really dangerous in the event of a crash.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Airplanes don't have mechanical connections to their control surfaces anymore. They use triple or quadruple redundant fly by wire systems. But they're that safe because of the FAA, not just out of the goodness of their heart. We need car regulation bodies to be closer to the FAA in stringency.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    IMO the biggest difference between standards in flying and driving is the training and requirements toward operators. Imagine having a DUI being a strong indicator that you'll never drive again, or basic driver training taking 50 driven hours, in addition to stringent theoretical tests.

    Or people needing to check their cars for safe operation every time they start it, and omitting it being a crime.

    Or a significant percentage of the population being just medically disqualified from driving, especially over 60 years of age.

    It would be a different world for sure.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    I've always been strongly of the opinion that driving is a privilege, not a right and you have to prove you can properly handle the vehicle to strict standards. These vehicles kill and injure so many people every year because of awful driving and awareness.

    Now public transit on the other hand, should be a right.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    i agree. and this isnt just a tesla thing. plenty of other manufacturers are going this route, tesla might be the worst though especially the 3/y rear seat release. when the i8 was released i watched a video on youtube where a salesman and a tech were showing the car off. the tech mentioned that in training they kept breaking the emergency release inside the car. if a tech cant get out in training then how the fuck is anyone supposed to use it in a real emergency?

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  • [–] 78 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (14 children)

    The number of automotive interfaces that we need to start strictly regulating because of trendy bullshit is getting fucking stupid.

    A car door handle should be a mechanical device that's plainly obvious to anyone who's used a door handle, like, ever.

    If phones are too dangerous to use while driving, then so is a fucking tablet glued to the dashboard.

    I shouldn't need a camera to use reverse, just quit adding blind spots.

    A steering wheel should be just that — a wheel.

    Blinker control should be a stalk pointing to the driver's side door and self cancel.

    And so on...

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Funny thing about reverse cameras, they became a safety standard and requirement since 2020. Too many toddlers getting run over because you can't see when they run behind the car below deck, even in an old car with a low trunk.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    im not against backup cams and sensors. they are useful. to me the amount of aids for stupidity needs to go away. instead of having people, ya know, learn to look where they are going they just merge over and if the car doesnt yell at them theyre oblivious to whatever is around them.

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    [–] 39 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    I don't know if that's a tesla thing, or just cars in general these days (as I have an old vehicle and don't ride in many others), but not having a fucking manual door opener seems really, really dumb.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    it's over engineering at it's finest. Also included is the motorized pop-out door handles.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    So the pop out handles on evs make a little sense. The goal is to reduce wind drag as much as possible. At least on mine (not a Tesla) you can still interact with the handle without the car exposing it.

    Not having a manual way to open from the inside? No way in hell is that ok.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    The wind drag on the handles is so negligible youd see a larger performance boost simply washing the bugs off the surface.

    Cars aren’t moving fast enough that such short protrusions really matter.

    It isn’t until cars start getting to race speeds that aerodynamic forces become … important.

    Does it reduce drag? Yes. Is it smart to do so? Not so much. This is like all the cars that pulled out spares to get under the Obama era mpg requirements. Does it increase mileage? Sure. Is it smart to do so?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    There's only a small handful of cars that have primarily electronic door handles. Teslas are the worst because opening the door without power is very different than opening it with power and sometimes breaks the window. I think it was Mercedes or someone who has a power lock but the manual release is part of the same lever, you just pull it out farther.

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago

    This is textbook bad engineering.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    My Toyota has this thing called a door handle

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I don't normally use the word "literally", but... Teslas are literally death traps. Their door releases are all extremely hidden and impossible to locate if you haven't been trained to find them. It's like they are trying to kill people.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The Model 3 owner's manual states that "only the front doors are equipped with a manual door release."

    Well clearly anyone in the rear could just go out the front doors. And there's absolutely no conceivable way that would ever not be possible, right?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    There's a little hole next to the electric door handle where you can poke a straightened paper clip... oh oops, that's the cd player, not the door.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    The new Lexus RX has this door tech as well. I couldn’t open the door in the showroom.

    Walked out of Lexus right away.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Reason #286 to never own a god damned stupid Tesla.

    Cars are required to have manual releases by law; it's just shitty how Tesla appears to be skirting those rules by hiding these manual releases behind inconvenient placements and locations...which is going to get people killed someday when one of these damn things catch fire.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    So I'll just throw out my personal anecdote, as a Model 3 owner. Every single person who's ever gotten into my car for the first time cannot find the electronic button that opens the door, to the point that I got little vinyl decals with a door open symbol on them to indicate that button opens the door. Usually what happens for first-time passengers is one of two things:

    1. Someone can't find the button to open the door and immediately grabs the mechanical manual release and opens the door just fine (as long as they're in the passenger seat, as the rear seats do not have one. I agree that is dumb.)
    2. Someone finds the button and presses it, then the window rolls down slightly (about half an inch) and the door unlatches and partially opens. The person then thinks they just rolled down the window and doesn't just push the now-opened door, so the latch re-engages after a moment. I then tell them "push the button and then open the door" and then it's fine.

    I agree that the way to open the door, even from the outside, is not intuitive when compared to what most people are accustomed to. Any time someone gets in for the first time I have to explain "press the big part with your thumb and then grab the handle". But it takes no more than half a second to figure out if you're the least bit observant. Hell, when I first got the car I drove my friend around for a few weeks before realizing the beeping when the passenger's door opened was because he used the manual mechanical door release instead of the button every time. He literally found the manual release more easily than the intended button for opening the door, and just thought that was the right way to open it until I told him otherwise.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I feel like these people are incredibly disingenuous. If I'm in a hot car and want to make an exaggerated example out of what I think is bad design, I act like these people. If I'm in a hot car, stuck and panicking, I'm thinking about how much a window costs for about half a minute, and then I break a window.

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