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Tesla knew Autopilot caused death, but didn't fix it::Software's alleged inability to handle cross traffic central to court battle after two road deaths

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's time to give up the Tesla FSD dream. I loved the idea of it when it came out, and believed it would get better over time. FSD simply hasn't. Worse, Musk has either fired or lost all the engineering talent Telsa had. FSD is only going to get worse from here and it's time to put a stop to it.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's like three comments in here talking about the technology, everyone else is arguing about names like people are magically absolved of personal responsibilities when they believe advertising over common sense.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the tech has inarguably failed. It's all about the lawyers and how long they can extend Tesla's irresponsibility.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

See, I would much rather have this discussion vs another one about advertising and names.

We're seeing progress. Ford is expanding features on Blue Cruise (in-lane avoidance maneuvers I believe). I think Mercedes is expanding the area theirs works in. Tesla added off-highway navigation in the last year.

No one's reached full autonomy for more than a few minutes or a few miles, but I wouldn't say there's no argument there. In fact, I'd say they're arguably making visible progress.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Calling it Autopilot was always a marketing decision. It's a driver assistance feature, nothing more. When used "as intended", it works great. I drove for 14 hours during a road trip using AP and arrived not dead tired and still alert. That's awesome, and would never have happened in a conventional car.

I have the "FSD" beta right now. It has potential, but I still always keep a hand on the wheel and am in control of my car.

At the end of the day, if the car makes a poor choice because of the automation, I'm still responsible as the driver, and I don't want an accident, injury, or death on my conscience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tesla is producing advertisement videos (already in 2016) that said "our cars drive themselves, you don't need a driver". What you said is worthless when Tesla itself is marketing their cars like that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please link that. I’d like to see it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/17/tesla-self-driving-video-staged-testimony-senior-engineer

this is the advertisement: https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-tesla-cars

It literally says: "The person in the drivers seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself."

And the best part is that the video was faked.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Cool ty. FSD is still beta for now. Maybe when it’s final. Fingers crossed.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Since when has autopilot, especially in 2019, ever had the ability to deal with “cross-traffic” situations? It always has been a glorified adaptive cruise with lanekeeping and has always been advertised as such. Literally the same as any other car with LKAS. Tesla’s self-driving software wasn’t released to the public until 2021/2022.

Meanwhile about 120 people died in traffic related accidents today in the US.

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