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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm trying out Bitwarden after moving to a Sony phone (my Samsungs came with their inbuilt password manager) however it keeps asking for a master password all the time. Is that normal?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can enable biometrics, if your device has a fingerprint sensor. If the phone doesn't have one, you can setup a PIN for easy unlock.

Both are available in the settings.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can change that in the bitwarden settings. I have mine set to unlock with a fingerprint (fallback is a pin), and it stays unlocked for 15 mins before required the print/pin again.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm probably an ignorant paranoid about them, I know I should google a bit of them, but instead I'm going for the ol' trusty ask the community.

Do they save your passwords locally or in the cloud? If locally, what if I want to sign in in another device? What if I lose the device I have my passwords on? What if they hack my device? If in the cloud: How can I know the service is not stealing my information? If I can access it anywhere, wouldn't that mean it also needs a password? Wouldn't that make it twice as unsafe as it would only take one password to access the rest?

Edit: Damn, I got extremely useful answers, I'm starting to like lemmy!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Using Google' Pass Manager, it's really good sync across your devices if logged in with your Google account. It's not that good that it's embedded inside Chrome app on Android, it's might be much better if there's a dedicated client.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's wrong with dashlane? Been using it for years, really don't want to take the effort to move to bitwarden or whatever the flavor of the month is...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use Bitwarden!

I like that I can share password with my team. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use EnPass since it came out. Bought the lifetime license back when it cost about 8€.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lastpass for like, a decade. I can't understand how anyone can not use one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Bitwarden all the way. Self hosted too.

However, I really wish they would steal the look and feel and custom document types they do over at 1Password. I moved from 1Password to Bitwarden a while ago but really miss the sexy look and feel of 1Password. Bitwarden is very "linux-y"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I dont use password managers.

I just use a set of random words + random numbers, usually something related to the website, the time period (like major global events), maybe just the mood I'm in when I created the password.

Example: For Lemmy, I might use IslandMazeMouse0216 (I do not use the password btw, never used this before and now never will, don't try hacking me lol)

"Island" because the fediverse is like a bunch of islands, that formed together into one fediverse, "Maze" because this shit is confusing, and "Mouse" because the Lemmy logo looks like a mouse, 0216 because of June 12, the day the protest began, 0612, but reversed, but not reversing the 0, so 0 216.

Now I feel dumb for explaining, but also want to hear opinions.

But you see, it doesn't matter. Most websites have login limits so you can't really brute force the password. I just hate "password managers", if I were getting old, I'll probably just put my passwords inside a Standard Notes note, or just put it in a txt and use 7Z AES256 and upload it to a few cloud services.

For offline passwords, like a Windows Veracrypt encryption password, I use 5-8 random words with 5-7 random numbers and increasing the PIM.

For mobile, I use like 16-25 digits numerical pin, alphanumeric passwords are just too hard to type. I've been experimenting with long alphanumeric password + biometric, or a pin, and honestly idk which is better. I don't want someone accessing my phone while I'm sleeping, I might forget to turn off biometrics before I sleep.

I'm not gonna encourage everyone to do what I do, I am not a security expert, just some dude on the internet, but I just want to share how I deal with passwords. Feel free to criticize any flaws. 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Few critiques, not personally towards you at all but I really don't think people should follow this approach

People can have hundreds of different passwords across various sites this really isn't achievable

Human memory is terrible as well, it's not a matter of if you forget it's when

Storing in a standard notes file is absolutely terrible security, it's also extremely unusable once you have more than a couple passwords

I really suggest to people using a password manager, most of them have apps for your phone and plugins for your web browser to allow you to autofill. They also allow you to randomly generate passphrases/codes for different sites and the autofill means you never have to remember a single one whilst having extremely strong passwords

I'd recommend looking into either Bitwarden or 1Password

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't use the random generated passwords cuz they're hard to read. And some dumb forms disable copy/paste stuff.

I get all my passwords from usapassphrase.net, and then usually capitalize the words, separated by periods, with 69 appended to the end.

It's easy to remember or type, and it also typically works for password rules around casing, numbers, and special character inclusion. Plus 4 word passphrases tend to be a lot of characters, providing a nice long password which is good for security.

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