If I still used Reddit I’d be the Chad “yeah I‘m a tankie. Why do people oppose Stalin sending in tanks to save Jewish people from being lynched in the streets by Hungarian WW2 Nazis anyway?” and just turn off reply notifications.
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I thought it was about sending in the tanks at Tiananmen Square
No it was an uprising in Hungary in the 1950s.
The narrative in the west is those brave Hungarians just wanted their freedom, and they only lynched a few Jewish people, as a treat.
The tankie / historically accurate account is that Hungary was one of the more enthusiastic Nazi allys in WW2 and it was mostly the fascist element, mostly ethno-nationalists, mostly the same people who fought in WW2 in most cases, running riot murdering socialists and having another pogrom. Yes they wanted independence from the Soviets but they wanted to restore the far right ethnonationalist government of the 40s so it’s good they were crushed. The “freedom” they were after was the “freedom” to reimpose fascism.
Another fun fact re Tiananmen Square is that those tanks were actually leaving the city center when tank man stood in front of them.
The cia internally estimated 150-500 casualties, which coincides with the Chinese account which states 300 were killed in over 200 locations. Which stands in contrast to what the BBC still reports to this day of 10,000 being killed in the square, descriptions of piles of bodies of which for some reason there is not a single photo or eye witness account, and this claim is all sourced to a British diplomat who says “a friend told me” and that’s what the public account rests on. A trust me bro.
Edit: fuck i can go on too. It’s the Tiananmen Square protests were actually mostly a protest against market liberalization because it sent food prices high which makes people angry. Some student movement which was simply one element of the protests were neoliberals wanting “western style democracy” but nationwide the movement was actually mostly inspired by people pissed off that price controls were being removed from food which affected their cost of living. It wasn’t exactly an anti-capitalist protest since it was really more specific to the price of food and anger about corruption but the way it is portrayed as “please we just want western style capitalism” followed by authoritarian mass murder is a near total fabrication.