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I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…

I’ve somewhat recently moved back to a very rural area of the Midwest. Small town. No stop lights. Biggest businesses other than the bars are Casey’s, Subway, and Dollar General.

And we have one ISP (not counting DSL) — Mediacom. When we first signed up, I had to go with the second service tier. But not because of speeds, but so I could have a reasonable 1 TB/mo data cap.

Lucky me, they increased the cap to 1.5 TB. 🙄

I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the Netherlands we complain a lot about gas prizes, costs of groceries. et cetera.

But regarding internet we have come a long way. Fiber is available to approximately 50% of the households currently (and they are expanding fast)

Mobile data is really seen as a commodity. 5G with unlimited data is €25/€30 a month (depending on the carrier). Although 5G in the Netherlands is not yet up to speed (3,5GHz will become available soon), the realistic speeds achieved are more then decent. (Benefit of having a crowded, flat country)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here in Sri Lanka I'm paying ~20 USD for FTTH 100 Mbps. Monthly bandwidth is limited to 155 GB lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think we've had data limits for wired internet since moving on from dial-up/ISDN. But I'm still waiting for unmetered mobile data. Here all the supposedly competing providers are advertising 100 GB as unlimited. I'd rather pay for a reasonable specific speed with no metering, than have a connection that is so fast it can use up its monthly quota in an hour.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lobbying captured local states' law (by ISP's) and so some places can petition to have their own internet at cities and have, but these laws sometimes prevent that. But we should still try to petition to get a city based internet. It's worth it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have 1gb/s synchronous fiber through my local small town. $80 on my city utilities bill. Oh, and no caps. Muni fiber ftw

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I pay $60 for 600d 10u And I'm in a "major" east coast city. I have access to ONE broadband provider. The only difference is I currently don't have a hard cap, although it I started using more than 1-2TB a month they'd drop me or find a way to force me into a higher tier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Friend of mine lives in bumfuck nowhere here in the US (like, no access to running water if it goes without raining for a few weeks - that kind of rural) and has gigabit up/down for $60 somehow. Meanwhile, there's 2 or 3 ISPs in my area who will gladly take $60 for half that speed and dog shit upload. I pay for both a resi and biz line and the latter is the same speed for $15 more. Criminal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

EU - 30 USD 400/200 MBbs fiber no data cap here :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Aussie chiming in 50/20mbps for $90/m. I wanted 50mbps upload but it would have bumped the cost to $130/m.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Man, the US is weird sometimes. I don't think I've ever had a data cap on my home internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…

For the past 15 years I've had a data cap on home internet, but never had a data cap prior to that.

That's led me to believe the exact opposite of your observation; unlimited data is a thing of the past and data caps are a thing of the present and future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks god I have unlimited 150/50 4g internet at home for around 42€ per month. This month we downloaded around 5.5 TB of data. Also small town, countryside, no stop lights, no businesses other than bars and shops. There is only one stop light in whole region. And whole region is getting fiber optic. We had DSL, but speeds were terrible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll jump on the specs bandwagon. I really can't complain much about Spectrum or AT&T. I currently have symmetrical gigabit with no cap for $80 a month. I just signed up for "straight forward pricing" which is supposed to lock in my rate for as long as I have it.

I'm outside of Charlotte, NC.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

pay $180/month for 1gbit down/100mbit up and it is unlimited... It would be $130 for 1.75TB, but I wanted unlimited and that is an extra $50/month

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I pay about $ 25 for unlimited 300 MBit/s, I also get 50 GB of data in all of the EU, 100 MB world wide roaming and 100 minutes world wide calling.

Oh, and it’s on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.

From an Aussie where our Internet is somewhat considered a "public utility" (NBNCo), it's not the best. I'm paying $130/mo (Aussie bucks) for 250/100 fibre.

Our NTDs are capable of gigabit symmetrical, but thanks to our Lord and Saviour, Rupert Murdoch, it was essentially limited speed wise and the network was built with ridiculous complexity, such as the CVC constraints (Connectivity Virtual Circuit), which means ISPs have to buy additional bandwidth and hope and pray that every user doesn't max out their connections at the same time.

For example, the POI (Point of Interconnect) I'm connected to has a total of 1.5Gbps with the ISP I'm with. Based on their stats which they make public to customers, I'm guesstimating that there's approximately ~50 other households in my POI area connected with this ISP. We all have to share that bandwidth otherwise it slows to a crawl.

ETA: I'm purely talking about the FTTP network here, not the other part of the mess that is NBNCo and FTTN/C/B, Fixed Wireless, Satellite & HFC... the NBN is a complete mess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, that's pretty terrible. I can't remember the last time I've seen data caps on home Internet (edit: there were some a while ago, but those were basically cellular-at-home for places that are hard to reach with copper or optic fibre); must've been early 2000s. Right now I get 600 Mbps d/400 Mbps u at home and 10 Mbps d/u cellular (no data cap) for a total of under 30 EUR/mo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In North America, it's overprice. I pay 50 CAD/mo for 20 giga of 4G Internet on my phone. Like we say in my country, on se fait fourrer solide (we get totally fuck)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd be so screwed on that plan. According to my router, I've downloaded 5311 GB in the last 30 days, and uploaded 399 GB. Sure doesn't feel like it in hindsight, but some family members are on YouTube all day every day, others constantly downloading new games on Steam, and my Plex media Server and *arr apps just chews through data.

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