cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/26211900

[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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[–] 70 points 2 years ago (11 children)

The only thing that surprises me is that anyone is surprised.

I don't intend that to be snarky, more jokey. But, yeah, it's pretty much common knowledge. Not the first time they've expressed unpleasant opinions on the subject, though not quite this bluntly. There was a minor kerfluffle over it not too long after the reddit exodus.

And it isn't unexpected tbh, that's a pretty bog standard tankie take, if perhaps a tad more trope filled.

To me, lemmy is kinda like a less important version of the Apollo missions. You put up with someone unpleasant because they can get the job done, until things get to the point it can be done without them. German scientists, tankie devs. Yeah, yeah, von Braun wasn't a "real" nazi; whatever.

At some point, either lemmy gets enough movement to get a less extreme team on board, it gets forked, or something else comes along.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'll keep posting about Sublinks as long as Lemmy is primarily developed by people whom suck

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    How is Sublinks development going? Are they getting close to Lemmy as far as features go? Any stable instances yet?

    I'm aware of the project, but haven't been following it closely the past few months.

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    [+] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s also worth noting that the bourgeoisie doesn’t just compete for power with the other two classes (proletariat and petit-bourgeoisie) - it also competes internally. And for that, different factions within the class will seek external support from different groups, and align their discourses to those.

    And if someone were to ignore that and view them as a single-minded monolith it can easily be explained as divide & conquer tactics.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I just got banned from !linux@lemmy.ml for posting that screenshot

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    @xnx PieFed won’t have an app any time soon due to the way it’s implemented. It’s still awesome without a native app because it’s fast and doesn’t really need direct access to hardware to do its thing.

    Tech detail: PieFed is a Python app using Flask and server-side rendered HTML templates. It is super fast as there’s no heavy Javascript framework being used. The maintainer has written about how PieFed is developed with poor internet connections in mind: https://piefed.social/post/6102

    @fediverse

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Honest question: Why does it matter if he's a transphobe when choosing which Fediverse software to use? The software is FOSS and anyone can make their own instance. I don't understand why his social views outside of sharing the software and protecting it from becoming proprietary matters when deciding what Fediverse software to use.

    I'm not arguing my stance. I really want to understand what I might be missing.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Honest question: Why does it matter if he's a transphobe when choosing which Fediverse software to use?

    1. Because some people have actually financially supported him. I'm not trans, but I would be devastated to know that my money went to feed someone who wants to destroy me.
    2. I already have trouble convincing transgender people in my social circle that Lemmy as a software is safe for them to use even with the variety of trans-inclusive servers like yours, and will be safe and inclusive in the future.

    A great example of (2) is the fate of PolyMC. Thankfully, the other developers forked it into Prism, but transphobia put that whole project in jeopardy for a bit.

    The software is FOSS and anyone can make their own instance.

    IMO that's why I'm not immediately dropping my account and running for the hills, but it's still not good. Most people don't have the technical skills or the interest in learning them to run their own instance.

    I really want to understand what I might be missing.

    IMO it's that even though he does not personally control how Lemmy instances are run, and even though we do have a good degree of robustness to transphobia because the software is FOSS, it is still both morally and technically ill-advised to have a transphobe at the helm of an open-source software project.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (24 children)

    You cloud give mbin a try its developers are nice people :) Although there is only one app for it (interstellar)

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    When you guys implement https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues/486 I might switch.

    I'm not the biggest fan the Mbin interface (that's mostly a taste issue, nothing wrong with it per se), but that feature could be enough for me to give it another try

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    [+] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)
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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    This is very disappointing. I'm glad lemmy is federated and open source, so that I don't have to endorse or support every single view of the creator to use it.

    Nutomic's view is very misguided. The section of the bourgeouisie that expresses support for trans people often do so out of opportunism (though some probably genuinely support it They're human after all). The fact that transphobia is still rampant should be proof of the lack of an "agenda". And what is this agenda about anyways? Acceptance? Or are people really still thinking that there's a push to turn cis people trans the same way we have done the reverse since forever?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I thought you mistyped PixelFed lol. Good to see there's another Lemmy clone like sublinks.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Happy with my current instance, but the urge to try out PieFed grows… would probably mean abandoning Mbin though and Mbin is already so tiny compared to Lemmy…

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