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Found from S4A’s Mastodon post. S4A is an ultra-leftist, but he has his moments.

People often ask me what I think about Midwestern Mussolini. I think they're shit.

This whole article, "In Defense of the MAGAcommunism Strategy," dated May 27, 2024, lays out praise for Jackson Hinkle, who has stated that Marxism isn't about abolishing private property (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXG4h5w1bY ), and Infracel, who…where even to begin there (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ntTm-XBa4 )? Those two aren't spreading Marxism but a toxic synthesis of revisionist Browderism, cultish Lyndon Larouche-ism and neo-fascist Duginism. We generally call the end results, the pathetic wastes of life who believe in that garbage, "patsocs" ("patriotic socialists," stemming from one of their early controversies) or "nazbols" ("national bolsheviks," after the associated fascist-with-red-symbolism movements). And for Hinkle and Infracel, and I guess the Midwits now too, "grifter" also fits well. The right wing may have bad politics, but they sure have more money! (Hinkle's former mentor, Jimmy Dore, can tell you all about it.)

The article begins by talking about the author's sports coach, who supports Trump and "wants a political and economic revolution." Does he though? What you tend to find in that camp aren't anything like revolutionaries but confused and hateful bigots who're invested in every reactionary prejudice there is. We know this because decent people with any amount of solidarity refuse to stand with the shit the Trumpers do publicly and have been doing publicly for a long time. While a few of them may come around some day to some extent, most of them will remain on the capitalists' side for life and as hazards to a genuinely revolutionary working-class movement. In the short term, it's more realistic to plan to face them in combat than it is to think they'll willingly renounce their ignorance.

And what do Trumpers mean by an "economic revolution"? There are only two possibilities for running an advanced industrialized society: capitalism and socialism. And Trumpers definitely don't want socialism. Rather, what you get out of them tends to be crudely stated, petty-bourgeois, fascist middle-class politics. Instead, communists - which, again, to be clear, Hinkle and Infracel are not - generally should speak firstly to the advanced masses, who can help to guide the middle masses and to contain the backward, most ideologically captured masses. In other words, we don't start with the least class-conscious people who are tailing the 1% the most. Unfortunately, this describes a lot of the US population, but it is what it is, and denying that will get you nowhere you want to go.

Finally, the author states, "I haven't agreed with 100% of what Jackson Hinkle has said in the past three years," and yeah, I sure hope not, but let's be real: the Midwits agree with enough of Hinkle's 💩 to get on board with the founding of his new, fascist political party, the deceptively titled "American Communist Party" (ACP).

Give these 🤡 🤡 🤡 a very wide berth.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

AI slop as the first picture made me cringe

the first paragraph made me quit

is a Trump supporting MAGA guy who regularly tells me that every single politician on both sides is corrupt, he doesn’t trust the Israeli and Ukrainian Governments, and that it's bullshit that people have to pay money to the banks for housing when banks don’t actually provide anything of substance. My coach wants a political and economic revolution, and because he feels that Donald Trump is the politician who best represents his anti-establishment political leanings, he supports Donald Trump.

im sure you never point out the contradictions in any of this and just run with people who would happyily introduce maga-fascism lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

The Article ENTIRELY ignores this point: "What you tend to find in that camp aren't anything like revolutionaries but confused and hateful bigots who're invested in every reactionary prejudice there is. We know this because decent people with any amount of solidarity refuse to stand with the shit the Trumpers do publicly and have been doing publicly for a long time. While a few of them may come around some day to some extent, most of them will remain on the capitalists' side for life and as hazards to a genuinely revolutionary working-class movement. In the short term, it's more realistic to plan to face them in combat than it is to think they'll willingly renounce their ignorance."

-As if the coach is some otherwise wonderful, innocently ignorant guy, and not a willfully ignorant, egocentric psychopath.

Christ.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't know S4A was an ultra, I really like that he posts audio forms of a lot of texts, since I prefer audio form of them

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I have not heard his arguments but disagreement about China wouldn't make me consider someone ultra I think it must be a systemic failure of the reasoning of how they understand the revolutionary process that would put someone on that category. I say that because for as important as it is to keep the correct line it is also important to not throw away allies for divergences that are still manageble

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I found YouTube links in your post. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

Link 1:

Link 2:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It's just a bot that sees a YouTube link and posts some proxy servers for people who don't want to be tracked by google