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[–] 174 points 2 years ago (27 children)

How does this happen? Like people on the forum get into some argument about the turn radius of some tank and how they shouldn’t have lost a game, and then it escalates until someone posts the tank specs so they can be right on the internet?

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  • [–] 167 points 2 years ago

    Yes. This is apparently so much of a problem that US and other nations include this in security training for military personnel and contractors. They literally teach you not to get in arguments online about weapons capabilities and whatnot because they know people are dumb enough to post classified info just so they can be like "ackshually..." on an internet forum.

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  • [–] 97 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    From what I’ve seen it’s usually that Gaijin have something wrong about the vehicle and so people leak actual classified information because they want it to be corrected.

    MilSim people can be an odd bunch sometimes

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  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    And the devs are like "Are you fucking dumb? We won't use classified info in our game."

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Well if it’s something like a turn radius, they can always claim that they just guessed right.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Are they under any obligation to protect the classified information if they're not the ones who leaked it?

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Knowingly owning or using classified info without proper clearance is, in fact, a crime.

    That’s a large part of what Trump’s classified document raid was for. Former presidents usually have a lot of classified stuff to turn over after leaving office. It’s standard practice, (and perfectly legal) to simply send it back (via the proper channels) as soon as you discover you have it. But if you conceal it and refuse to return it (like Trump did) then that’ll land you in some hot water.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's my understanding that you're only required to protect the information if you've actually agreed to do so, which is obviously a retirement for being given access. Elected officials are a weird area where they have a much easier time getting clearance, but they've still made agreements to protect the information.

    Trump was authorized to handle classified information in the first place, which is why his mishandling was a problem. I haven't read the actual law, but I'm pretty sure ordinary people who happen across classified information have no duty at all in any direction. If you can show me an example of a random person getting in trouble for sharing classified information that they didn't steal or get others to steal, well, let me know.

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  • It's sometimes this, and it's sometimes Gaijin just claiming something is classified for whatever reason.

    Sometimes, a British tank crewman posts technical specs from their manual for the Challenger 2. Sometimes, Gaijin claims that a declassified, internationally available manual for a Cold War era plane is classified. Or the Wikipedia article on a WW2 tank.

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    [–] [S] 159 points 2 years ago (8 children)
  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    "This marks one of three leaks that have happened in the past week, though not all of them are directly tied to War Thunder. The first related to the release of documents on the Challenger British main battle tanks on the game’s forum, though that information was confirmed to be publically [sic] available from Britain’s National Archive."

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Asked me to disable my adblocker, but I'm just runnng vanadium lol

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  • [+] 108 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)
  • [–] 188 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    The leak happened earlier this week during a forum discussion regarding the T-90M, T-80BVM, and T-90S Russian main battle tanks, all of which are currently in service and appear in War Thunder itself. The documents shared are user manuals meant for those operating said vehicles and have, like most other military documents, been declared classified or sensitive even though they contain relatively surface-level information.

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  • [+] 137 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)
  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    tbf, if I ran an intel agency, after all these incidents, Id probably have someone "leak" fake classified docs on the warthunder forums or other similar places once in a blue moon, to spread misleading information to rival agencies as to the capabilities of my nation's equipment. Both to blend in with a place idiots are known to actually post such info, and if its found out my agency was doing this, to cast doubt on the validity of any real docs from my side that were leaked before. Doesnt seem like itd cost much of anything to do, so there would have to be only minimal benefit to be marginally worth it

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  • [–] 102 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Honestly these guys are both the smartest and stupidest folks imaginable at the same time - I'm just glad it's the Russians they're screwing over this time haha

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    If they were smart, they wouldn't be playing Warthunder in 2024, tho

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Ah yes, they must be playing that other historically accurate plane combat game whose name I totally forgot because it actually doesn't exist and War Thunder is the only option.

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  • [–] 87 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The autism of tank nerds never ceases to astound me.

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  • [–] 62 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Seriously now, how many times has this happened?

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Must be a day ending in y.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Did someone finally leak the metallurgy of Stalinium?

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago*

    They just needs to write alien spaceships and then we'd find out about what's really in area 51 within about a week.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    How’s that place not just a den of glowies by now? Bet you can see it from fucking space

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    How WarThunder was funded:

    CIA guy: "So y'know how Wikipedia became a trustworthy source of obscure information just by weaponizing pedantry?"

    NSA guy: "I'm listening."

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is this even noteworthy anymore?

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