I dunno. I think there are enough things named after men.

Maybe a nice neutral woman's name... Like, Anna?

And it's more about preservation and archival, so I think it should be called an Archive, not a library.

Yeah, Anna's Archive. Great name. Let's go with that one.

Would be a shame if they decided to call it something with the letter z and the word library in it

It's great that these projects already exist

but it hurts accessibility that you need to be "in the know" to find out about it.

every media outlet has to mention WayBackMachine; it's such a great outreach and legitimizing

You can't delete what was already destroyed!

wait until you hear about libgen

But I think the law is pretty clear, and a precedent calling their use case fair use would be mind blowing. You need new, much more common sense IP legislation that redefines consumer rights in a digital world.

Indeed. I'm a big supporter of IA's mission, and I'm a big supporter of piracy (copyright has gone insane over the years), but this outcome was obvious from the moment IA did this and it was a mistake for them to fight this fight. They should focus on preservation. Let the EFF handle the lawsuits, and let Library Genesis handle the illegal distribution of books. Everyone focus on what they're best at.

By "controlled lending system," do you mean the library? If so, it is ridiculously expensive for them to offer ebooks and audiobooks. One ebook costs $60-100 and they can only lend the licensed copy for two years. You would think audiobooks would be more expensive to do but publishers charge roughly the same.

same same same

can anyone please point me to some piece of writing that explains how IA didn't willfully self destruct?

everything i read about this legal action, even when I read IA's stuff about, sounds moronic. doomed to fail and lose big for themselves and for others by setting a loser precident.

I kind of suspect this was an attempt on the IA's end to get parts of copyright struck down by court ruling. Laws can be clear and still found to not be in the public's interest, or in violation of some other legal doctrine, and sometimes you'll see groups come at them sideways.

Ownership laws are really tough ones to chip away at, and IP law in particular has been getting worse and more unassailable over time.

How is IAs approach much different to that of a regular library?

True, they were digitising physical books and lending copies. But this is not much different from how a regular library works (assuming controlled digital lending, yeah I heard aboud Covid period 😕).

I'm not an expert on American law (know nothing about it), but reading the articles and comments I thing there's an argument to be made for IA functioning as a library.

While digital lending is fun and games it wouldnt work on a scale of the Internet Archive. The wait list would be tremendous for popular books.
Go use and support your local library if possible and donate a fiver to IA for their other services they offer

This is cool. Thank you for sharing

They're appealing the decision so there's still opportunity for IA to throw good money after bad on this.

has change.org ever changed anything?

change.org doesn't like my mail address for some reason, and they tried trick me into subscribing to their newsletter :/

Don't blame the writers, some of whom are long dead, and some titles are long out of print.

Printers*