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Proton receives ISO 27001 certification (proton.me)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From wikipedia for those, like me, that don't know about ISO27001 :

ISO/IEC 27001 requires that management:

Systematically examine the organization's information security risks, taking account of the threats, vulnerabilities, and impacts;

Design and implement a coherent and comprehensive suite of information security controls and/or other forms of risk treatment (such as risk avoidance or risk transfer) to address those risks that are deemed unacceptable; and

Adopt an overarching management process to ensure that the information security controls continue to meet the organization's information security needs on an ongoing basis.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I guess this is something that US hospitals should be doing considering they always getting hit.

I wonder if the brain dead boomers in charge even know what cybersecurity is?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A lot of healthcare facilities are running EOL operating systems like Windows XP or Windows 7 because the programs they use for billing or other reasons are stuck on that version. You would be shocked at how prominent this is across most "modern" infrastructure. The resistance to change stems from a "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" mentality. Pagers are still the most reliable ways to reach a doctor, which is why they're still used, not because they're necessarily the most secure.

As easy as it is to point blame at "duh boomers" the situation with healthcare in particular is much more nuanced. Though I do agree that any luddites in charge of major hospitals are not helping the situation at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't these people get paid to "lead"

Amazing how they can get away collecting checks, fucking up and still keeping their jobs...

How many times can fastfood cook botch the order before, he or she is let go?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@sunzu @neme @luc891 @kryllic One problem is that affected customers who walk away never to return are hidden on the bottom line by new customers that replace them. Businesses don't care about disatisfied customers, not when they have all the customers they can handle.

Think of lost business as collateral damage or cost of doing business. The share holders can't see the lost revenue so it isn't "lost revenue."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

we we talking hospital specifically or more broadly here?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They didn't have 27001?

edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s expensive and time consuming.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I passed my first audit last week. I know exactly what it entails.

I would have expected Proton to have had this certificate a while ago.

kudos on them passing the audit though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Awesome congrats! Maybe they didn’t need it if they are mostly business to consumer focused and average users don’t ask for it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks 😊

It's true that 27001 is more valued in the industry. The lack of the certificate also doesn't imply they have no information security management system.

I was surprised they weren't certified yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Oh good. Hopefully it gets into the next release. Always hoping for some extra FPS.