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[–] 156 points 2 years ago (40 children)

We have this shit at work, they make it incredibly hard to get a fucking attachment as a real attachment instead of a link to their cloud

Specially annoying since my organization is "geofence" but we work with people all over the world... So MS insists on switching attachments to links nobody can open outside my country

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

    Blame your company for not configuring that shit, or choosing to let MS handle it all.

    Personally, no company should be using Office 365 and external mail. Bring that shit back in house.

    No Know (wtf autoincorrect?) why bringing it in house costs more? Because it's worth it, for the control.

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  • [–] 90 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I speak from experience that no one other than professionals should be handling their own mail servers in 2024. I worked for a mail host. The amount of spam and attacks that befall a mail provider, even a small one, is bonkers. Plus, mail is just too damn important.

    I wish it wasn’t the case because the idea of everyone privately hosting their own mail servers would be pretty awesome. Sadly the modern internet makes it way too risky.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I'm also not sure where they got their idea that cloud is cheaper from. On prem has always been cheaper, I've had to walk through fire and flames to get my company to approve cloud hosting as we simply do not have the capacity to be our own mail host. Goodluck explaining tech debt to upper management though, it's like they're allergic to the idea of understanding it.

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  • [+] 19 points 2 years ago* (7 children)
  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    And how if you share a file in Teams and then six months later you want to share a file with the same name to ANYONE else via teams, well that's a big no-can-do. Teams just went ahead and uploaded that file to your "stuff to share" folder in OneDrive and didn't put it in a subfolder unique to the chat, or add a unique prefix or suffix or anything because hey, you'll only ever share a file with a particular name once in your life, right?

    And nobody would ever want to share a file with the same name, but different data, right? So Teams can just give the end user the choice between replacing the current file with the new one, or sharing the same one again to these new guys, because there's no possible use case for actually having two files named the same with different information in the file, right?

    Nobody would want to share a README.TXT, or Photo001.jpg, or contact.ics, or a zip file of a folder they just downloaded from Teams' SharePoint interface, the file that's automatically called "OneDrive.zip" without the option to change it before saving, more than once, right? Right??

    Fuck teams. And fuck Teams(New) too, just for the shitty name.

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    [–] 113 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's my data, I don't know you!

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    [–] 86 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    If you save it on your computer instead of on their servers, how could they possibly be expected to analyze your data? Come on now, be reasonable!

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    That's why they created recent controversy with ai analysing your whole data, another reason to switch to Linux

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    [–] 73 points 2 years ago

    But you'll at least let us take a smaller or bigger peek right? Don't worry we have a screen recorder ready, you don't have to do anything.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Had that happen at work. I just drag-and-dropped a file into the Outlook web-UI, thinking it'd attach as an e-mail. Turns out, they recently changed that feature and you now have to drop into the right half of the area. If you drop into the left half, it uploads into OneDrive.

    I accidentally did that. The document had personal data inside. That's a breach of GDPR. Fucking ace.

    (I'm not sure that attaching to the e-mail isn't also a breach of the GDPR, since my company switched Microsoft 365 for various things. But yeah, I certainly would have liked a confirmation dialog.)

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Maybe next year Xbox cloud gaming should team up with Outlook and Onedrive for the "Ultimate" cloud computing conversion feature:

    When you drag and drop a file into Outlook, Windows mail, or Exchange, the file bounces around like in the window like in the game Breakout. You can only attach a copy if you hit every word in your email message. If you let the file fall past the signature line, it makes a Onedrive link automatically.

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    [–] 59 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    📎 It seems you want to save your file locally. Too bad...

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I once helped a person with their computer. They complained the they cant save the their photos. Well, their onedrive was filled to brim with crap, while the local 1Tb disk was empty because they had zero idea how storage and folders work. I had to explain her there is literally 1000x more fast disk space available, so please dont save into onedrive.

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's not really her fault. Microsoft pushes people to use their onedrive and pay for a subscription even when people have no clue what it is or what it does. Microsoft is just insanely anti-consumer.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I dont blame her tbh. I have onedrive completely disabled on my personal pc, but on my work laptop Windows defaults everything to onedrive and names the onedrive folders identically to your local ones.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Naming different things identically is a thing Microsoft loves to do. I still keep opening Teams or Teams instead of Teams. And I think there are at least three things on my PC called Copilot, and they haven't even released Copilot yet.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    And I also don't want programs to throw all their crap in the documents folder. AppData is made for that.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

    And now show hidden files and you see the plethora of applications that dump everything in your homedir instead of .config

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    Do ah look lack ah know hwat a Onedrive is?

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Adobe pulls that shit too.

    And it's really easy to not really think about what you're doing and accidentally save to the cloud.

    Then later wonder what the fuck happened to the file you spent three hours on when you came back from lunch.

    Fucking Adobe.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Stage 2:

    Documents folder? You want to rule my whole computer, dictate some nonsensical folder structure and then you act like, out of the goodness of your heart, I can have this little set of folders, deep in your weird structure, to store my stuff? And you're even telling me how to sort it? On my own hard drive connected to my own computer?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    And then at some point, games started saving inside documents. Ok, it makes sense to have game save files in a user area instead of a subfolder in the game install area, but they aren't documents. Just make a new game saves folder or something like that, don't just stick all my game save files in the same area, cluttering up my own organization.

    Though I did solve it kinda by just making a new documents subfolder in my documents where I put my actual documents.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Luckily I'm old, so I reflexively click the save button every few minutes anyway. Great progress there, Microsoft!

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Oh you want to delete a file from your folder? Ok, we'll also delete it from OneDrive so it's gone forever, see ya!

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    [+] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Insert “use Linux” joke. But I’m absolutely serious when I say that using my company’s M365 stuff using the web versions in Firefox on Linux is pretty pleasant.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Goddang it, Bobby. OneDrive's a bastard drive!

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    I grew up in suburban DFW, and King of the Hill is not really an accurate parody...

    It's a documentary.

    You think I'm kidding, I am not.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Pictures you can hear.

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  • [+] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)
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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Sir if you will simply fill out this form in triplicate...

    And initial here, and here, provide your SSN#, yes and bank account and a credit card number there, and mother's maiden name yes, and provide rights to the soul of your first, second, and third-born child...

    Then you are all set! Oh wait, now just watch this advertisement, and this other one here, and this other one here, and also this other one, and we will allow you to save... hey, where are you going?

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