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iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro rumored to feature big boost in battery sizes (9to5mac.com)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world
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Hoping the 15 Pro will be great for battery. Seems like 12 and 14 took steps back in battery, 13 was great and hopefully 15 will be as well.

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[–] 48 points 3 years ago (12 children)

It's mind-blowing how slow the advance of batteries is compared to every other kind of technology

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    I mean sure, but it’s also kind of the opposite. Energy density has increased dramatically from lead acid technologies.

    The real issue is you’re not going to leave leftover power untapped, so the tech will always exceed the battery as they try to leech every last drop of power from the system.

    Sorta like an energy chicken and an egg situation.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Not every other kind of technology though. I think the problem is that batteries get lumped in the same category as "modern tech" (e.g., microchips and storage), rather than with energy tech.

    For example, Wikipedia says a poat-war VW bug got around 35mpg. That's similar to the combined mileage of a Civic that's 50 years newer. Yes, the Civic is more powerful and weighs more

    but we're not talking Moore's law improvements.

    Same if you look at power. A 1967 Corvette 427 was listed at 430 horsepower; a modern base Vette is 490 (or 670 for the Z06). Sure, the mileage is way better, etc., but again, hardly Moore's law improvements.

    Energy and power are tricky.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    The 67 was measured with no accessories or load. It would be about 350 bhp today. It also had ledded fuel that would be like running on only e85 and with no cat today. If you had that the Z06 would be well over 1000 hp with the old rating.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Battery tech has the limitations of chemistry to deal with. A ton of cutting-edge work is being done with exotic materials, but it needs to be ready for the mass market before we see any groundbreaking improvements.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    More like Apple is slow to advance their battery size. Samsung is offering like, 5000mAh batteries in their A series phones (Hyperbole yes, but still)

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Optimization is more important than just sticking a larger battery somewhere.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Ehhhhh, when your making a completely integrated device, Optimization is the core. And, an iPhone with a 5000mAh+ battery would probably last 2 whole days.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Idk what phone you have but my 13 pro easily lasts 2 days for me, light usage I could probably get 3.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Right now a Galaxy S20FE. I tend to charge 85% and go down to 20% and it barely gets me through 1 day that way right now due to excessive heat in Texas, which is where I live. Couple that with having to Wireless Charge as my only source of Charging due to my USB Port being broken, and you have a recipe for crap battery life.

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    • [–] 23 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Bigger battery + the change to USB-C would be awesome.

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    • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Hoping for a 15 mini 🤞

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Really pleased with the size of my 12 mini and gutted that the Mini line is over after the 13 mini.

    A 15 mini with superior battery life would be great, even if it did thicken up to house a larger battery.

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    • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    i just want a new mini otherwise my 13 mini has to stay alive for quite a few years... I just hate big phones!

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    • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    I see that the source is unproven but if true, I’m happy for these changes. That said, I really want this phone to be much lighter. It is noticeably heavy. Let’s get rid of the stainless steel on the Pro.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I like the weight. I’m not a fan of the ultra lightweight design. It feels to fragile.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Requesting a iPhone 15 cast iron version.

    c/CastIron will go wild>

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    “Seasoning my new iPhone 15 Pro Max CastIron 100 times”

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I like how solid recent iPhones feel but I'm finding the weight of the 14 Pro is actually hurting my hand. It sounds funny but it almost feels like gravity is stronger under it lol

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I still have my 6s that I sometimes use to play music from (headphone jack; what a concept!), and it’s crazy to me how much lighter it is than my 12Pro. The 6s feels like it’s floating on air.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I think that would be a regression. When I first held an iPhone 14 Pro, I was like "Wow, this is hefty, but I really like it!" and right now I daily drive a Galaxy S20FE, which is glass back and metal sides. My phone feels like cheap garbage compared to a 14 Pro.

    And the S20FE was basically a mid-cycle refresh of the S20 before the S21 came out.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    Isn’t the FE’s back plastic?

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    • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    I thought I had read, several years ago, that Apple dumps a bunch of money into R&D of new tech in exchange for exclusive use of that tech for a period of time after it hits the market (e.g. ultra high-res displays on the iPhone 4). Seems like they haven’t done that as much in recent years but I’ve been patiently waiting for graphene batteries. Maybe this is the year 🤞

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    [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    I wish sites would stop using nm. The new chip should should be on tsmc 3n, that is a 5nm process. The old one was on 5n and that is a high density 6-7nm process

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    I thought I had read, several years ago, that Apple dumps a bunch of money into R&D of new tech in exchange for exclusive use of that tech for a period of time after it hits the market (e.g. ultra high-res displays on the iPhone 4). Seems like they haven’t done that as much in recent years but I’ve been patiently waiting for graphene batteries. Maybe this is the year 🤞

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Nice

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    [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Do you reckon they will have solved the problem of the charger only working with apple devices for this version? They been working on that for about twenty years now. Lately I hear they have got the support of some imfluencial players like the EU government who are streamlining the process of being able to charge with standard electricity instead of special apple electricity. It's like regular electricity but smells of apples and not farts like all the android plebs contend with.

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I’d welcome this. My ancient moto phone had a 5000 mah battery in it and is thinner than my iPhone 13. Idk why they haven’t crammed more in before now.

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    [+] -9 points 3 years ago* (6 children)
    • iPhone 15: 3877mAh (18% increase)
    • iPhone 15 Plus: 4912mAh (13.6% increase)
    • iPhone 15 Pro: 3650mAh (14.1% increase)
    • iPhone 15 Pro Max: 4852mAh (10.9% increase)

    That's still less than what you can get from the Samsung Galaxy lineup. This is really just another catch-up story by Apple. But of course, it is always spun as some genius innovation that Apple invented just now...

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    I mean you’re right, but for those of us who are happily within the iOS ecosystem and have no intention of even considering changing, it’s good to get some progress on this front. My alternative isn’t to move to a Samsung, it’s to make do with whatever battery is in the latest iPhone Pro model and hope for bigger gains in future releases.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don’t think anyone is spinning a bigger battery as genius innovation by Apple, but a bigger battery is nice to have. I wouldn’t even say this is Apple catching up though, battery life comparisons between the 14 Pro Max and S23 Ultra have been favorable to the iPhone and that’s with the Samsung having a 16% bigger battery.

    Plus it’s a good thing to have companies competing with each other. I’m glad Samsung is putting bigger batteries in their phones if it gets Apple to continue improving battery life.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Yea "battery life" is the intersection of energy consumption and energy storage. Focusing purely on the spec sheet (the size of the battery) makes a very incomplete (and frequently biased) comparison.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    I have used android phones going back to a galaxy s3, and recently bought an Apple phone. My brother, the battery life on these fucking things is different. The capacity matters but the optimization that Apple is using more than washes it out.

    2-3 days without charging is a reality with my 13pro. It’s not catch up. The iPhone was an experimental purchase for me. There are things I don’t love about iOS, but I probably can’t go back to android battery life.

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    • [+] -14 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    What I’d like - an iPhone that uses a M1 or M2 chip, and has enough storage to run a full OS-X implementation on it. Use it in phone mode, or in reduced power (slow) mode, run Mac apps. - or if you want the full “Mac” experience, plug it into power and with a wireless keyboard and mouse you have your entire computer there and be able to share the output to a full-size monitor wirelessly.

    That said, it would come to an iPad first, but I can dream…

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I strongly believe that there are zero technical barriers to this.

    But that would eat into Mac and iPad sales. Can’t have that.

    Honestly? Sell me an iPhone that does that (behave like an M1 Mac when docked) and I’ll give you 3000£ for it without second thought.

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