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Living in a walkable city means my weekly shop is a few hours of walking or biking instead of being stuck in traffic, and I'm only mildly tired afterwards since I use a bike with pretty large pannier bags. Since I have no car related costs I can afford more fresh food, a healthier diet, and I can afford to be more choosy about the ethics of what I buy. There's a twice weekly farmers market about a ten minute walk away, and quiet walks through parks to get to the shops. Living somewhere with car centric infrastructure, as I used to, this lifestyle was far less feasible.

Have your experiences been different with moving to walkable/bikeable cities? Any questions or points to be made? I'm not very up on the theory side of city planning, but my experiences line up with the whole "fuck cars" thing.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm blessed with a recently priced grocery store within 1-2 minutes walking (less than 200m/ 0.1mile). I have some nice large reusable bags, so no car needed for daily stuff.

However, due to this, I also shop there every single day instead of making weekly trips. In weekly totals I still spend 10-20 minutes transport and probably a lot more spontaneous purchases than I would from just one weekly trip.

Whenever we do plan weekly shopping, we usually use the car to go elsewhere because one shop doesn't have all the things.

However, I recently found an app that can plan the cooking recipes based on this one store, so I could potentially use a handcart and get everything in one walk. I haven't done this yet though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

There's a balance to be struck between freshness and structure for sure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Are there cities that aren't walkable? I assume that you can do this in any city because there's shops everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The quickie answer is most cities developed under increasingly strict zoning regulation that boils down to "housing goes over HERE, business goes over THERE, and don't you DARE let them touch!"

EDIT: Also "don't you even think about putting a bus stop near my new homes that's for poor people!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's subjective.

If you live within 10 minutes walk of a supermarket then this is achievable for you.

OP seems to be somewhere where trips are more enjoyable and there's more variety close by.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

How'd you carry all that home?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I have two baskets and saddlebags on my bike and this shit would easily fit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This looks like it can be easily handled by one of those cloth grocery carts, or a couple of reuseable bags and a backpack for the beer/some of the dried goods.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I lived in NYC for a while and I never got a cart, but I would go to the store pretty much every day and get smaller loads, like one or two bags. But watermelons always harshed my mellow.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm coming over for dinner!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Y'all really eat like this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m 5’10”, 200 lbs with 15% body fat and so not a particularly thin guy. I’m primarily a vegetarian/occasional pescatarian. My cholesterol/blood pressure numbers were terrible until I started eating this diet. You don’t need to eat meat (especially sausage) in 2024. Take a supplement for B6 if you’re concerned about it.

People eat different things. It’s fine and probably better for you than what you seem to think is good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Damn, that's crazy. Well good for you. I eat mostly meat and I'm pretty good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re probably pretty young so enjoy it while it lasts.

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