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[–] 150 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Public opinion seems to be souring on all the big corporate social media sites, and I truly think if we're able to get the word out about federated social media platforms, people will jump ship.

Also, it's hard to dislike a platform that isn't showing ads, selling user data, or generally making decisions for the enrichment of shareholders.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    It’s so weird, I don’t even notice the lack of ads most of the time (pihole, never leave home, so it’s roughly the same experience I'm used to)

    But when I go out? Oh man fediverse is the only site I’ll use because I know it’s safe from ads. The other privacy/user-focus stuff is just a bonus.

    (I don’t have any friends around here, so just sort of go out to be out, and usually for food)

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Inevitably there will be a fediverse instance with ads, but whether or not people want to use it will be up to the individual.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago

    As long as the ads don’t federate in an un-blockable way, they can do as they like. I wouldn’t make an account there, I’d rather donate actual money than have a degraded experience (which for sure works out better for everyone), but I get the drive to monetize.

    And they should absolutely -not- be allowed to federate ads, for any reason, since it goes against the vibe. But inevitably there will be “sponsored posts” (probably already are), and I think those instances/users will see themselves fade to oblivion, as long as new users are brought to understand that they could just chip in $2 and never see an ad.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I honestly don't think we're there yet.

    Remember, something like more than half of all people still don't use an ad-blocker - some people want ads, or at least want that they provide money to keep the service going, and similarly with selling user data (to the extent that people bother to think about it at all).

    Never underestimate the level of entitlement thinking on behalf of new users - like, "Which instance do I join? Wait, I have to choose!? Nvm, I'm out already." (and for Mastodon, this has much greater implications than for Lemmy)

    Also, one single reply to a comment in chapotraphouse on hexbear.net, followed by a second reply somewhere on Lemmy.ml, almost made me turn away from social media entirely, thinking that this place was fast becoming not really all that different than Reddit after all - I mean, these are leftists, aka liberals, these are/must be my people, right, R-R-RIGHT!?

    The Fediverse is not for the uninitiated, and requires significant setup work to even be pleasant much less enjoyable, depending on where you go and the users' innate level of insensitivity.

    Though you and many others are working tirelessly to make it better by offering great content - thanks!:-)

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    [+] 88 points 2 years ago (13 children)
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    [–] 80 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    Gonna be honest, a lot of times I feel like I don't belong here, I'm still figuring things out. I'm not a "techy" type person (that seems to be some kind of prerequisite) and I barely know how to explain the fediverse to the layman, but I left reddit when they fucked over Joey (my preferred reddit app) and read enough to give reddit the middle finger and never look back. It's been nice, really. I spend more time outside of the internet now. But I believe in the fediverse, I think it's the right thing to do. I still check up on lemmy daily, but I get much more value and human connection and only spend the time that is appropriate on lemmy instead of endlessly scrolling. Most days I end up in some Wikipedia rabbit hole. Just like the good ol' days. Learning new things, meeting new people. That's what I love about the internet.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    It's what we all loved about the internet I think, before the web become... "that" (looking at the pile of shit the web has become).

    But actually it's not the web, not really. It's the big tech platforms that most people seem to think is the internet now. It's sad to watch how people log on to "Facebook" and not the general web anymore. And then Google in front of everything, like a big cancer growth.

    Lemmy is not the new internet either I believe. But it's here to show people that something else can exist. As soon as we let advertising in here though, it's over.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Honestly this is great, non-techy people making the transition is a good sign and something the system needs to gain mainstream appeal.

    Also, people who aren't techy are less likely to accept hacky workaround BS and complain until it's fixed on a system-wide level, and that's needed to mature the platform to something anyone can use. It's getting there but it's still got a lot of rough edges.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    I enjoyed reading this. I came over from reddit when they started banning people for protesting. That showed me that reddit was not what I thought it is.

    I‘m a techy person. I run servers for friends and customers, partly with fediverse services on them. Lemmy being one of them. I donate both time and money to lemmy and other services I enjoy and use.

    The fediverse is a great thing imo. I hope it succeeds.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago*

    Gonna be honest, a lot of times I feel like I don't belong here, I'm still figuring things out.

    I left reddit when they fucked over Joey (my preferred reddit app)

    Are you me? I thought I was relatively tech-savvy, and then I moved to Lemmy. Also, Joey was the best.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It's easy to feel that way even if you are a techy. It seems like being minimally neurodivergent is the abnormal here.

    That being said, I've been introduced to many different ways of thinking that I wouldn't have gained otherwise. Think of it like you're different, but that's ok because everyone here is different - and that makes them (and you) all the more beautiful for it (especially in the context of idea exchange). In fact, being the different one here will give you the perspective that many of the people who use Lemmy experience simply by existing which, in and of itself, is a valuable thing.

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Admins. Thank you. Users. Thank you.

    Mods?

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    Ehh. What's the average age around here? I'm guessing it wasn't the youth that migrated from Reddit.

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'm doing my best to look at memes 💪

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I still haven’t been able to give up reddit but I have always been a lurker there. Here I’m trying to make a conscious effort to participate in conversations. I’m trying to be positive, kind, and thoughtful because that’s what I want lemmy to be.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I started to think of Reddit as just an occasional Google search result necessary evil and have successfully ignored it ever since. Log off DKC, there's a better world out there.

    In all seriousness I think eventually conventional social media will start to feel very siloed like AOL did as more people join the fediverse. I can't imagine using a site that I couldn't look at everything from anymore, save for stupid ass Facebook which I do solely for sovcit material. Why would I want to look at crap ads and AI when I can be here?

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The thing that I love most about Lemmy and the wider Fediverse is the sense of actual community. Many of the users feel like actual people I could meet in real life. It's essentially a digital cafe. Sure as hell not going back to Reddit or those other shit Big Tech sites.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    What I like about the fedi is I don't care if it's a "success" in the same sense that the closed social media sites have to be. It's not like this project has quarterly profit targets to hit or else it'll have to enshittify or else the investors pull out and we're all screwed because there's no more app.fediverse.com monolith or whatever.

    Nah it's just us doing our thing and enjoying ourselves. The activity around here already reached a critical mass a while ago, to the point that there's more content than I could hope to enjoy, so anything from here is vegan gravy.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Just out of curiosity, how much does it cost per month to run a Lemmy instance? Not that I'd want to do that myself, I'm just grateful for our admins that keep Lemmy up and running.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Everyone one of my shitposts is making history

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I lurk!! But, thanks y'all.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Every minute you use lemmy, spez's penis becomes 1 millimeter smaller

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Thank You, BotM! I migrated here from the corporate social medias as soon as I was aware. I'm still transferring my OC over from IG (not an easy task) to Pixelfed. And I use similar talking points to inform people, often about the very existence of a non-comercial social media. Very few people, maybe 2, since July '23 have even heard of the Fediverse. We shall persist!

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    For Lemmy.world a donation would help keep it alive without all the crap. Servers are cheaper then they were, but still not cheap.

    Ko-Fi (Donate)

    Bunq (Donate)

    Open Collective backers and sponsors

    Patreon

    Liberapay patrons

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    OMG! Thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️

    It's not easy keeping things up sometimes, but we're always looking for ways to deliver more for less, while still keeping things snappy.

    It's hard, but without the community, we would just be some nerds with too much time on our hands 😅

    Much love for y'all!!!

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I'm here to argue! It's my passtime 😎

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    considering that this is a bsd user, yeah makes sense.

    Coming from a self hoster, shits up when it's up. Otherwise it's down.

    I charge nothing and you expect no guarantees of service :)

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  • [+] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)
  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (14 children)

    Yeah, but we've been on this stressful ride before, and we know where it ends.

    There were lots of attempts at a closed source proprietary Internet protocol. They have all resoundly failed, after looking unbeatable. Some folks still fondly remember the closed Internet protocols like OLE COM, ActiveX, Flash, Cold Fusion, and SilverLight, but few of us miss them. Okay, I do miss Flash games.

    Good touchscreen phone operating systems were a "will this ever be matched?" trade secret at Blackberry and Apple. Now the vast majority of phones run open source Android.

    Much earlier, most good-enough C compilers were expensive proprietary closed source products. Now I see very little being compiled on anything other than the free and open source GCC. Even most other programming languages and tools are now FOSS, as well. I can't think of much for development that cracks the top 20 that isn't FOSS. JetBrains IDEs stand out as a lone closed source hold-out.

    Open standards always win, in the end.

    The desktop computing default is honestly way overdue to switch to FOSS. That's why it's the year of the Linux desktop.

    The Fediverse is here to stay, and is all that'll be left in a couple decades. But in the meantime, it's cozy!

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    That means everything I am doing is becoming trendy, which makes no sense.

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