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[–] [email protected] 89 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Sometimes I wonder about this. No matter how luxurious your bunker is, living there is still going to be a downgrade compared to how we live now.

Why not give a fuck about saving the environment? Not for unwashed masses, but for your kids and grandkids?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people (awful people) have kids for their own ego rather than because they want to raise happy and healthy offspring. They don't care about the world their children will grow up in.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

A conservative estimate is 30% of the population.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

It's because of the prisoner's dilemma. It is broadly agreed that everyone would be better off if everyone curbs their emissions, but for any one individual the choice is not so simple. For infividuals, a large reduction to their impact will likely hurt them economically more than it will help them environmentally. This is exactly why a lot of green legislation is driven by global agreements with countries all trying to put pressure on each other to reduce emissions.

Likewise, increasing government investment in green technologies could benefit the economy and the environment, but for any given politician the cost of turning against big oil may be a significant risk to their chances of re-election if not balanced out by a politically motivated and educated populace that is resistant to corporate propaganda. Campaign finance reform would help with this, but once again it's a bigger risk than it's worth to the politicians in power. Thus, we can't simply rely on the self-interest of the wealthy to prevent collapse; we must co-operate and coordinate our efforts to solve the problem.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Psychopathy is a spectrum. It undermines your values, makes you indifferent to normative and empirical reality, and robs you of all compunction, until the only salient feature of life is your own ego.

Many of those you find confusing fall somewhere on that spectrum. It’s a grim diagnosis, but you can use morally obvious cases to determine how bad things are. Opinions on abortion are a litmus test, as are attitudes towards obviously cruel and unvirtuous people, such as Donald Trump and various other celebrities.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Do you really think opinions on abortion are a litmus test? You can spin either camp as the psychopathic one, after all. I'm on Team Babykill but I don't think everybody against abortion is a psychopath, it's closer to a philosophical issue.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Really interesting view here, thank you.

Looking at the groups of people that are so hard for me to understand (MAGA, KKK, flat-earthers, etc.) because of how ridiculous their worldviews are, as some sort of psychopathic mental illness on a scale from sort of psychopathic, to full-blown psychopath makes alot of weird sense. Kind of disturbing and comforting to me at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

makes alot of weird sense

it really does not (specifically putting flat-earthers together with the other two groups). maybe don't take psychiatry lessons from two paragraph lessons by author with unknown qualification on the internet πŸ˜†

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is not how this works at all. There isn't an actual medical diagnosis called psychopath. The closest we have is ASPD. I am fairly sure people with ASPD don't have as much difficulty with empirical reality as you are talking about. Delusions are more of a psychosis thing.

I also don't think it's fair to judge someone on an issue like abortion when entire religions shove the idea that abortion is wrong down your throat even when being a child. The indoctrination is strong. Stop blaming the victims here.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Here's an actual in-depth answer in the form of a philosophical essay article about the Greek concept of "amathia", roughly translated as "willfull ignorance."

https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 months ago (9 children)

That kid is going to be extra grateful when his dad explains how much money he helped make the shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's funny cause no he didn't

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

It's bottle caps.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's dark. I feel sad now, also very glad I don't have, or want, children.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Here’s another dark comic about children to cheer you up

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

Jesus christ I don't need this gut punch and flashback, I'm going back to bed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is the implication that he can't afford food or something?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah - if I recall correctly, it was originally with a newspaper article about living cost crisis here in the UK

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If we want humanity to have any kind of future then we need more children not raised by cunts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (11 children)

We are 8 billion people on this planet. There are enough humans already.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

What a great dad, he still even has his nose!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

he seems like a pretty good father considering he is sacrificing his only source of oxygen so that his son can live.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think running out of O2 is in the cards. Poisoning ourselves in other ways sure. Turning land into desert also sure.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

running out of o2 might not be, but having that o2 mixed with some fucking poison definitely is...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but you wouldn't carry around an O2 canister necessarily, rather some kind of air filter I would imagine. I think we are a long way off making the air unbreathable though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

it is a comic pointing to a problem. don't over-analyze it.

personally, i like this one better, but ultimately they both point to same issue.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why does pop not wear oxygen?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Probably an anti-masker

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Because he's dead

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty accurate except for the giving money part.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

lol right? They just need to hold onto it a couple more years until the "youth" really need it and are ready for it.

That's been the response of my parents and those around me of people I know except for my Mother who just stole mine and said "So what? I need it more and money is all you think about."

Greedy fuckers as far as the eye can see.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

you laugh but that money will be handy to have when you gotta to pay for breathable air to Mr CyberBezos while working in his warehouses

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Very cash money poggers of you father

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

when yo soil is prussian white

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Way ahead of you. I'm poor and without oxygen at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

less time suffering is equal to winning in my book

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