Hmm but Kibana makes it easier to read and parse logs. And you don't need server permissions to do it.

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Just using fluentd to push the files into an ElasticSearch DB and using Kibana as frontend is one day of work for a kubernetes admin and it works good enough (and way better than grepping logfiles from every of the 3000 pods running in a big cluster)

I needed to search something in the AWS log thing the other day, couldn't figure out how to search text with one common non azAZ09-_ character, also couldn't figure out how to negate on simple words, have to do the grep thing and it JustWorked™

Wrong.