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[–] 305 points 2 years ago (32 children)

Good intentions, implementation, and results here, but seriously folks, think VERY carefully about what you're doing when you tamper with something someone's putting in their body.

Do not try at home to the nth degree.

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    implying anyone on 4chan gives a shit about consent

    this made me really uncomfortable too, also its extremely fake, you can't 'take apart' a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic), and no one on 4chan has a girlfriend (lol)

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You can take apart juice bottles.
    The least realistic part is that anon managed to get to and dilute every bottle their gf used.
    Cause if they miss one, their gf is gonna have a serious shock.

    So, lack of consent and extremely controlling?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    That's a very good point. The fictitious gf is the one buying the bottles. So if they are used to 1% nicotine and pick up a regular strength one, they're going to use it, and immediately notice the difference...

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    also its extremely fake, you can't 'take apart' a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic),

    What sketchy cheap shit are you using? I've used a vape for a decade now, and you can remove the nipple cape on every single bottle.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    yeah using some random "cutting solution" is how you end up with Honey Cut 2.0

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago

    You don't use a random cutting solution, you use the same juice with no nicotine. A lot of juice makers offer 0 nic versions for people that want to just enjoy the act and flavor of vaping without the addiction, and for this specific purpose of cutting the nic level because they only offer certain increments (usually 3%, 6%, 12%), which may be too high for one's personal preference.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Just as a thought experiment, what you'd really wanna do is change the salt nic formulation, i.e. the acidic compound which is added to freebase nicotine to convert it to a salt. This directly shapes the pharmacokinetics of the resulting nicotinic effect from vaping it, which is what leads to the common knowledge that salt nic hits harder, but doesn't last as long as freebase. That isn't universally true at all, but is a result of the salt formulations that are popular in the market.

    I worked with a scientist that once formulated a 20mg/mL solution for me that had similar throat hit to the 40mg/mL products I was using & had a very steep onset curve, and I found it to still be very satisfying even immediately after swapping. It wasn't a successful product though because for the consumer, 20mg = 20mg & 40mg = 40mg

    Guess my point is that the novel ways of using tech to improve weaning off nicotine using vaping do legitimately exist, but they don't have a place in a free market so we won't have it while regulators stay luddites on the issue

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    [–] 112 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

    This is BS. By the third or fourth bottle shed be like wtf is up with this juice?

    (This reduction method helped me quit, but it's not imperceptible like that)

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  • [–] 81 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I tapered off vaping using the same method, and there is a clear difference in the feeling of a pull when you cut the nicotine down. Also, you can't just "cut" the nicotine, you'd have to find some way to enhance the flavor of the diluted mix otherwise it will just get more bland. All of that being said, this is a valid strategy for kicking it. Just buy lower nicotine content bottles until you get down to 0% nic, and if your your experience is like mine, you just wake up one day and don't reach for the vape on the nightstand.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    As far as it being bland, that's why you get the same flavor juice with 0 nicotine and cut it with that. It does reduce the "throat hit" (that feeling you're talking about), but you still get the full flavor.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Mixed my own until I quit. You have to be vaping the exact same shit constantly to have the taste so dialled in. If it's this slow a taper you're never going to be notice from one week to the other. And while I didn't use a ton, shortfills seemed fine to use with or without nicotine added. Just add less or replace with unflavoured liquid.

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    [–] 82 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    This is literally how I quit, except I did it intentionally.

    But this is fake because the jump from 0.001 to 0.000 was like the ground disappearing beneath my feet.

    For the previous week I was only using 0 nic juice in a pod that previously held a tiny amount of nic (we're talking trace amounts near the end - I wasn't feeling a thing).

    Anyway I thought I was going through withdrawal so hard with the 0 nic in the used pod, but NOPE switch to 0 nic in a fresh pod and it was like "welcome to withdrawal 2."

    Still really happy I quit though. It's so great not going into a panick whenever I misplace my vape for like 42 seconds. That was always so fucking humbling.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    50% nic lmao. Fake as hell.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    OP probably means 50mg which is standard high concentration nic salts (freebase is most commonly 3mg). People often mistake mg for percentage in vaping.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    everyone i know calls 50mg "50%"

    everyone.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I've vaped since 2013 and have literally never heard of this. Could be regional 💁‍♂️

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    probably is. personally never heard anything other than percentages

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  • [–] 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Other than being blatantly fake this is really nice.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    And then the gf decides she wants to try a new flavor, buys her "normal" nic strength, and fills her vape up with it before anon has a chance to dilute it.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This would actually work out fine because she'd get he new bottle, hit it as hard as she did with her diluted bottles, then to proceed to throw up. The nausea alone from nicotine overdose should be a decent deterrent.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    Anon sounds like a genuinely good partner

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Isnt fine tuning tour dosage literally the point of vapes? There are a lot of fluids with different levels of nicotine. Also from 50% you would fucking die. Its probably 50mg.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wouldn't she just use it more often and ultimately get roughly the same dose?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    It's possible, but frequency is determined by more factors than simply relief from nicotine withdrawal. It's also possible that reducing concentration very slightly doesn't change the overall equation enough to actually drive behavioral change. But I'd agree that outcomes are better secured with conscious intent. I think quitting successfully and meaningfully means learning resilience against compulsion to engage in behaviors driven by chemical reactions in the brain, which this approach doesn't do at all.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Diluting 50 times you'd need one hell of an amount of "dilution formula".

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's eazy to buy:

    10 liters - you will never need to buy again.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How long does it takes to vape a bottle?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The story is a bit controlling/manipulative in my opinion. Even if the net outcome is good I'd feel like I was overstepping a boundary if I did this to my partner.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    It sounds so freaking fake too.

    Tbh, I hope it's real and this woman is free from vape addiction. There's a question here about boundaries but what strikes me the most is that I can't take it seriously. The tone is just so characteristic of these 4chan green texts. No details, no heart. Straight to the point. Short enough to get a bunch of upvotes.

    He wrote it like it's a simple story that happened within a week. It just feels manufactured

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