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[–] 101 points 3 years ago (1 child)

European bank shares tumbled on Tuesday on the news

Oh no think of the shareholders

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  • [–] 93 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    after reprimanding lenders for failing to reward deposits

    This really is key. Think bank for a second. They make oodles off cash of nothing. Nothing. Just other people’s money. Think what you could do in 30 days with $6b. And what do the millions of people who pooled that $6h get? Fees. Nothing. There’s no interest for chequing, which the banks have set up to be the only way really to bank with. Savings net you next to nothing (do banks really think .5% is enough when they likely double your money day to day).

    And incentivizes to deposit? Yeah, zero.

    So they take all your money, charge you for it, make a killing, pay next to no taxes and call it a day.

    And here I am slaving away making nothing, paying 45% in taxes, all the while making them rich. I’m so done with capitalism which has turned out to be every bit as bad as every other kind of government that came before it.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Okay and I agree but how is capitalism a government?

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Capitalism eats everything if you let it, including governments.

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    To be fair, we don't want them doing too much stuff with our deposits, since they have to be able to give it back at any point. IIRC they earn most of their money off of lending as a result.

    And here I am slaving away making nothing, paying 45% in taxes,

    Where the fuck is that one of the lower tax brackets? Where I live 48% is the highest possible rate, including taxes from all levels of government. I hope your government services are pretty dope with that much funding.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Just for what facts are worth, interest rates on savings account are a good 8x higher than 0.5%, at least in a lot of American banks right now. I'm not sure where you are exactly, but central bank rates have risen essentially everywhere, so you should absolutely be able to find better rates than that.

    For $10,000 left sitting for 5 years, at 4% that becomes $12,100. At 0.5%, it's $10,250.

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  • [–] 71 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Bout time. Spain did it two years ago and now has inflation down to 2%.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Governments change, the current one handled this crisis pretty well. Spain also became a de facto lider in Europe on energy policy.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I don't know where are you getting this from. The have better GDP forecast than Germany for example and one of the lowest inflation in EU. Part of this is thanks to lower energy prices achieved thanks to policies that are now copied by other countries. And the current government did pretty good in elections just couple weeks ago so I don't think people feel overtaxed. Biased much?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    The unemployment rate is horrendous, at 13.3% in the first quarter of 2023. In comparison, Germany was at around 5.5%, the UK at about 3.8%, and the US at around 3.5%.

    Edit: And when you scope that to youth unemployment, the rate in Spain is nearly 30%. I won't pretend to know enough about Spanish economic policy to speculate on causes, but things are not exactly going well.

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    Okay?

    I'm genuinely not understanding your point. That website shows 13.01% unemployment it 2022, and 28.34% for youth. These are very high.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    So you misses the point if this entire discussion.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    The debt looked like this well before the energy crisis and it grew to over 100% under right wing government: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ESP/spain/debt-to-gdp-ratio Current government was hit by Covid but they actually managed to lower it in 2021. And I'm of course not saying that Spain is economically in better situation than Germany over all, just that this government managed current crises pretty well and got inflation and GDP under control faster than them and most other countries.

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    Sure, because higher taxes fuck over people's lives but inflation, recession, unemployment and high costs of living do not. Just look how happy everyone is in UK with their current cost of living crisis. Not raising taxes sure worked out great for them...

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  • [–] 70 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    They have a statue of a hand flipping the bird in front of their stock exchange?!

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    Now do tech companies.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    Hellllll yes

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    They will increase all wages thanks to that extra money. It's a joke, a joke gov that should be either upgraded or removed 🥳

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