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I've been playing a bit of KT with some friends and the fundamentals are great. I really like the IGYG mechanic, the shooting mechanics, the hand to hand, and the movement. The keywords for weapons work fairly well too.

What doesn't work for us, at all, is the wildly overcomplicated faction rules that have been mashed over the top. If you're playing Mordheim there's a learning curve as you don't start with a hundred skills, special rules, and other optional crap on top.

I can mostly manage the DKK rules, for example. They've got four "orders" that can be applied to them which buff them in various ways. There's a load more "ploys" that can be applied too, which are a bit much to keep track of but are just about doable.

The same cannot be said for a friend's Vespid Stingwings, or Hernkyn Yaegirs. They've got a multiple resources they have to keep track of and work with (and therefore as their opponent I need to understand too!).

I don't know if cutting this complexity out would debuff a load of factions, otherwise I'd just be calling for all of it to be scrapped. I more wanted to create a topic to have a bit of a whinge about it and see if anyone else feels the same way.

With GW's skirmish games from the '90s, most factions start from a fairly similar point and then diverge over time as they slowly gain access to their special rules. It's a learning curve. KT seems to be more of a learning wall. Way too much to keep track of all at once.

Not once have we made it beyond turn 2 of a given game before we run out of time and headspace. It feels like there's a great game buried under all the cruft but I'm not sure how much work it is to excavate that game.

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Also available on KTDash:

https://ktdash.app/fa/CHAOS/kt/NC

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by jodawznev@sh.itjust.works to c/killteam@sh.itjust.works

Also available on KTDash:

https://ktdash.app/fa/AEL/kt/MND

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New Balance Dataslate! (www.warhammer-community.com)

Lots of changes in this one...

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by jodawznev@sh.itjust.works to c/killteam@sh.itjust.works

If an operative has the "severe concussion" battle scar, their ~~WS~~ BS is penalized as if injured. If that operative falls below half its wounds in battle, is their ~~WS~~ BS penalized again?

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A Collection of Data and Links to get you started! (I stole this from reddit)

Core Rules Read Thru (by u/GlassHalfDeadTV):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JKT2i3VFyo

Core Rules Sneak Peek (Thanks /u/subaqueousReach): https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1Uu3nGpBCOGtCLL7Vh_jIac99Yy4s9rEF

Rules Overview (CanYouRollACrit):

https://canyourollacrit.com/2021/08/09/kill-team-octarius/

Free Online “Course” for Learning the Rules (by u/emilbrett ):

https://rise.articulate.com/share/YnYJx_m1yFjcjdtI7befC35yuEABqa-T#/

How to Play Kill Team (Part 1) (from Strategic Advantage): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju1kuzrtje0

Line-of-Sight, Cover, and Order Rules Explained (by u/GlassHalfDeadTV):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4wmh_rxBwA

Easy To Miss Rules List & Discussion

https://www.reddit.com/r/killteam/comments/pkbzib/easy_to_miss_rules/

Compendium Sneak Peek (Thanks /u/subaqueousReach):

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1EbzBrGbMiW9KGZPgCzmmyrTKXJDg4BSo

THE KT 21 Reference Sheet PDF (by u/ChronoDK):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kgToAvu_TXRmAQIA1kkdLKih4rCJOE6u/view

KT21 Single Sheet Reference/Rules (by u/Armagonix):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mrtt6z924u1h3lt/kt2_rules.pdf?dl=0

FAQs about the rules explained by a normal person (by u/JeremiahBlitz):

https://www.offmetamusings.com/2021/09/killteam-2021-frequently-asked-questions.html

One-Box Kill Teams for Beginners ( u/GlassHalfDeadTV): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waXbxVdwRow

Top 5 Kill Teams for Beginners ( u/GlassHalfDeadTV): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_oNPAFCMs

Kill Team Models, Weapons, and Damage spreadsheet (by u/OriginalUsernameX):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sa76-kNCVpLe0sLMEryo7l7QdZZOBqOrkhnENj55Mtc/edit#gid=0

Kill Team Costs Spreadsheet (by u/rogueguineapig):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FyS0Z4h1s2IicJ-riH696Sf58-DYIzz0-qf7YPlZ2GI/edit#gid=2147459322

How to setup your Terrain ( by u/GlassHalfDeadTV)https://youtu.be/MacG446wL6k

Many of these links helped me get a grip on the new system. What else should go on here

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The new Strike Force Justian KillTeam is loaded on KTDash. This is the KillTeam you can build with the new "Warhammer Heroes" blind box set. Very simple and straightforward team, no equipment. It's intended for beginners or new players.

More on this from WarCom: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/01/create-the-coolest-space-marine-kill-team-ever-with-new-warhammer-heroes/

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From CanYouRollACrit:

Welcome to today's Warhammer 40000 Kill Team video where I go over the updated end of season 2 tier list! Look at how the emergency balance dataslate has affected the state of the game, for the better! I rank every team from compendium to bespoke!

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submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by LouCGoosey@lemmy.one to c/killteam@sh.itjust.works

I recently picked up a box of Novitiates and I'm looking for some tips for equipment selections. My team is: Superior with plasma pistol & power sword (of course), 2 x Purgatus, Hospitaller, Penitent, Condemnor, Preceptor,

Exactor Dialogue Pronatus

Thanks!

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They still need some work, but here's my squad, ready to give everything For the Greater Good!

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Latest Errata Dropped Today (www.warhammer-community.com)
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submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by jodawznev@sh.itjust.works to c/killteam@sh.itjust.works

I've never spent this much time on painting my minis. Still too scared to paint eyes, but maybe next time!

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A Frankenstein’s monster of reiver, infiltrator, primaris, and “heroes of the chapter” bits, with a 3d-printed base and a custom head from Etsy.

Just 5 more to finish for a full killteam!

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