Because the website and even the party website doesn't list any kind of seed platform/ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Party_(UK)#Ideology_and_positions
Thanks for sharing.
It is also important to be clear that this wiki is basically a guess based on founder comments. As all of the proposed positions will be down to the democratic party process.
As the membership control is the main point of this party. As such the platform and Ideas can only be a guide. Untill membership is formed and has agreed to them.
The draft founding docs when released are expected to head this way. But it is entirely down to membership votes to agree this. Not the founders,
This is why so little is on the website ATM. It is not authed to do so until the members approve it.
Yeah, makes sense. It is a bit of a chicken-egg problem. But the naked ask for signing up without some kind of idea what kind of party wants to be formed seems poorly thought out and might affect conversion. As a complete outsider to the UK, my opinion doesn't really count, however if there are equally uninformed UK voters I am not sure they are going to be convinced to sign up. This is where a leader statement sharing a vision of the party would help. Transparency of who is doing the organizing and statements from them on why they are doing it would also help. Putting a human face on the proto-party with emotional CTAs can only help people on the fence decide to join. The weak, generic narrative of "for the people!" just doesn't cut it.
Party name is a dud, surprised they stuck with it. Putting Jezzer anywhere near it is poison if they are trying to win a majority.
Prediction:
This gains a decent amount of traction, hoovering up disillusioned Labour voters. Mostly from the lower age brackets.
Votes end up split between Reform/Tory on the right and Labour/YP on the left. Green, LD and other votes will further muddy the waters, diluting the overall result.
We'll end up with another coalition brought about by a hung parliament if the 'challenger parties' do well enough to get a decent amount of seats. I don't think either of them are winning outright though.
If the challengers don't pick up enough votes concentrated in the enough places, they'll be in the same place UKIP was at their peak - loads of votes all spread out and a paltry amount of MPs to show for it.
Not looking good to me, whichever way it goes.
If you think the party is sticking to the name. You have failed to do the minimal research needed to express an opinion on the parties plans.
My bad. It's easy to seize on. Hope whatever is chosen works well (and the sooner the better).
Next general is going to be interesting. The locals next May too.
With the mess that has happened. And the lefts willingness to reject. I think it may be over.
The right has always been willing to come together just to keep the left out.
We on the left tend to split or not vote. Over any idealistic difference. I'd be happy but surprised if this doesn't kill of your party. Before a real name is selected.
But will leave my tiny monthly donations and membership until it's dead. And hope for the best.
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A statement from Zarah Sultana MP
Zarah Sultana MP
Posted in Announcements
I want to clarify the situation regarding the membership system for Your Party.
Neither of this week’s emails had the dual authorisation of both myself and Jeremy - which was the agreement made at the start of this process.
After being sidelined by the MPs named in today’s statement and effectively frozen out of the official accounts, I took the step of launching a membership portal so that supporters could continue to engage and organise. This was in line with the roadmap set out to members on Monday and is a safe, secure, legitimate portal for the party. Everyone who supports us should sign up now.
My sole motivation has been to safeguard the grassroots involvement that is essential to building this party.
Unfortunately, I have been subjected to what can only be described as a sexist boys’ club: I have been treated appallingly and excluded completely. They have refused to allow any other women with voting rights on the Working Group, blocking the gender-balanced committee that both Jeremy and I signed up to.
It is also important to be transparent about why this situation has arisen. I do not believe members will accept Karie Murphy and her associates having sole financial control of members’ money and sole constitutional control over our conference. This undermines the democratic principles we agreed to uphold.
From the outset, we agreed that MOU Operations Ltd - stewarded by Jamie Driscroll, Beth Winter and Andrew Feinstein - would hold and manage funds on behalf of members until the founding conference, at which point they would be transferred to a new entity established democratically. Every penny raised so far has gone to MOU Operations, and this continues to be the case within our new membership portal. This, to be clear, is members’ money - and our members must decide how it is spent.
This arrangement was designed to ensure transparency, accountability and protection against the concentration of financial control in the hands of any one person.
I regret that today’s statement has misrepresented the situation. My actions have been consistent with our shared commitment: to build an open, democratic and member-led organisation. I will continue to fight for a process where members’ money, data and voices are safeguarded, not centralised under the control of one individual.
I am calling on Jeremy to meet with me and agree to make public all agreed structures, processes and decision-making protocols. Doing this will restore hope for our members, and ensure nothing like this can ever happen again. This party is more important than any one person, and we all owe it to the movement to deliver a truly democratic and socialist party.
The democratic founding conference of this party will take place in late November.
I will keep fighting for a minimum programme for maximum democracy, you have my word.
No stitch-ups, no coronations: the members must decide.
Zarah Sultana MP
Member of Parliament for Coventry South
Oof, well that doesn't bode well.
If I am wrong I'll apologise and delete my posts. But it looks like the link in this post is actually a scam
Anyone who had paid through this link needs to cancel the direct debit, and contact their bank.
This needs had been sent out to people subscribed by email as well
I'd not say wrong. It looks like this site is very much set up by Z Sultana rather then some random phisher.
And she seems to think some argument exists between her and other MPs involved in the forming of the party. Stemming from the release of the roadmap last week.
But it's Def a little worrying that this came about so early. Her arguments do seem to be forming a membership org as the roadmap indicated. In a way that allows them to express opinions and objections ASAP. So personally ATM I'm inclined to trust she has the parties best interests in mind. But each person needs to decide for themselves who they trust. If any,
It very much bothers me that the email accusing the site of fraud uses Her name and JCs as signers. When articles make it clear she disagress and nothing indicates JC has expressed an opinion.
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