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[–] 45 points 3 years ago (16 children)

Stop expecting perfection.

Nobody is perfect. MLK had affairs, the founding fathers owned slaves, Churchill was racist AF, etc.

She’s doing a great job now and we can educate her the same way we turned Obama from anti-gay marriage.

We should judge people OVERALL not on stuff like being anti-vax (which to be clear is dumb).

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I don't expect perfection...? Being anti-vax is a big deal to me. That's not a harmless ideology. It's moronic and anti-science. This isn't just some little thing I disagree with it's, in my opinion, a huge moral and intellectual failure. I think it's completely fair that this gets brought up because it's directly relevant.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Not to split hairs but she is actually against vaccine mandates, not against vaccines itself. She is vaccinated against covid-19.

    Personally I disagree with her and support mandates, but there is a considerable difference between anti-vax and anti-mandates.

    Source: https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/fran-drescher-sag-aftra-contract-talks-alec-baldwin-vaccines-1235517073/

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    I wish we lived in a world where we could count on people to just do the right thing but we don't. On issues that put everyone at risk I unfortunately have to stand on the side of mandates until people learn how to act. Personally I'd still rather that they just get naturally excluded from society but we're all too split for that and too many people have to needlessly die in the meantime. I'm aware fighting for women's rights to choose is kind of hypocritical in this situation but nobody has come up with a better solution that doesn't just let people be wilfully ignorant and get other people killed in the process.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    No!

    If even ONE thought in her head disagrees with MY world view then she is useless and NEEDS to be destroyed!

    /s

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    This is where leftists get the reputation for forming circular firing squads.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Yet somehow you guys are always the first to play the victim even to something that's still theoretical. Like your comment here. Amazing example. Same with the person you responded to. Not a single example of anything like that but here you both are comforting each other over it lmao

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Talking about someone's glaring flaws isn't the same as expecting perfection. That's an intillectually lazy way to see it. Wanting people to only sing the praises of anyone is actually expecting your version of perfection.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Why is this particular flaw relevant to this discussion?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    If it's relevant to the person being discussed it's fair game imo. Just like it's fair game to point out her better actions if it's in a post dunking on her. Famous people are gonna be scrutinized more than the guy working at the gas station that's just how it goes. I don't expect perfection but what alternative do you even want here? I'm not down with ignoring bad behavior then because we want their help now. That'll never sit right with me. If someone is in a position to be emulated by fans and they make the decision to spread dangerous ideology then fuck em. I'm gonna bring it up at every whisper of their name. It's the closest thing to actual consequences for their actions that most rich/famous people ever get anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Why does it matter if it's relevant to the person, if it's not relevant to the subject or current event in question?

    To answer your question, the alternative I want here is better working conditions for actors. I view her as working class, not rich. The difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is about a billion dollars.

    The guys her union is up against actually are rich, and they're even worse. The working class is being divided and conquered.

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