The technical mechanism:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.devicelock

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To be clear, I am not the OP who experienced this problem. I just linked them from here.

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[–] 15 points 2 years ago (21 children)

I'm OOP, I bought this phone outright. Google seems to be installing this on phones by default (the actual pattern based on people's comments seems to be more recent phones, but not all have it).

It's even shipping within de-googled phones, at some base ASOP level (or the hardware, I dunno, not that knowledgeable), as some GrapheneOS use reported having it on their phones too.

I'm pissed because: 1. It's installed when it shouldn't be, 2. Gives inappropriate power to creditors, which hurts the most vulnerable.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    I bought a pixel from a german carrier in germany and installed GrapheneOS on it and this 'app' is still installed.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Then don't pay over time if you don't like not owning the device.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    If you don’t control it, you don’t own it.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Which is why I bought my phone. See, my pixel doesn't have remote management. Shocking how that works when you don't choose to rent the phone.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I also paid full price and bought it from an official store with no connection to any carriers. Installed grapheneos and can confirm it is still present, whether anyone can use it is not is irrelevant if your putting shit in my phone that could potentially harm me. And you seem to take some kind of weird moral ground thinking people who default on a payment can have their phone which is a necessity in this era, turn into a brick if they choose to. You're lucky you can afford to but be more empathetic to those who can't.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nobody needs a pixel. There are plenty of phones far more inexpensive than pixels lol. I NEED A PIXEL TO LIVE!

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Dude, he bought a full priced phone and the distributor preinstalled ransomeware on it.

    If you think this is acceptable just say it: "Distributors reserve the right to install ransomeware on the devices they sell."

    Just say that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Who's taking about pixel mate? We are taking about android here. Not the hardware but the simple fact that a device I paid for has harmful shit I didn't ask for. Pixel or whatever, this shouldn't be installed on anything period

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    You’re not getting it. Again:

    If you don’t control it, you don’t own it.

    Buying something does not mean you control it. You might have bought an Amazon Ring doorbell but if Amazon does not like your behavior they can (and will) render it dysfunctional.

    If you don’t control it, you don’t own it.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Ah magical slippery slope stuff any another product 🙄👌👍

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    No amount of money you pay for your phone up-front will make that malicious code magically go away. You can pay cash, and you can even tip the seller. The code that reduces your control remains in that device. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Lolol, nobody is using the API on my phone. Its existence doesn't harm me in the last bit. You should stop using Linux if the existence of remote management bothers you.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    Imagine acting like having a $1000 phone is a right. If you didn't want creditors shutting down your phone, pay for it. Apparently this is an undue burden these days.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    This isn't about my phone in particular.

    The fact you cannot even imagine a situation where this kind of power would lead to vulnerable people having their lives be made even harder for missing a payment, shows how little you imagination and empathy you have.

    This kind of power should lie with regulators and the justice system, not private companies.

    Also why is this app ON MY PHONE WHICH I BOUGHT OUTRIGHT? ffs.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    The code is inherently in the firmware (edit: kernel) no matter how you acquire the phone.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Every OS, including Linux, has a way to install remote management. Every one. You are just pissed at how the phone company implemented it. Might as well blame Linus for making the os extensible.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    You’re still not grasping how free software works. Users have a right to see the code and the right to change it. They also have the right to redistribute the code. Your complaint is unfounded because not a single user of a fully free platform is forced to have remote management code installed.

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