▲ 173 ▼ motivation to deGoogle: Creditors can lock your Android remotely if you are delinquent. (infosec.pub) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by coffeeClean@infosec.pub to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml 90 comments fedilink hide all child comments The technical mechanism: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.devicelock update To be clear, I am not the OP who experienced this problem. I just linked them from here.
[–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 8 points 2 years ago (11 children) If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (10 children) Which is why I bought my phone. See, my pixel doesn't have remote management. Shocking how that works when you don't choose to rent the phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) I also paid full price and bought it from an official store with no connection to any carriers. Installed grapheneos and can confirm it is still present, whether anyone can use it is not is irrelevant if your putting shit in my phone that could potentially harm me. And you seem to take some kind of weird moral ground thinking people who default on a payment can have their phone which is a necessity in this era, turn into a brick if they choose to. You're lucky you can afford to but be more empathetic to those who can't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nobody needs a pixel. There are plenty of phones far more inexpensive than pixels lol. I NEED A PIXEL TO LIVE! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Dude, he bought a full priced phone and the distributor preinstalled ransomeware on it. If you think this is acceptable just say it: "Distributors reserve the right to install ransomeware on the devices they sell." Just say that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Who's taking about pixel mate? We are taking about android here. Not the hardware but the simple fact that a device I paid for has harmful shit I didn't ask for. Pixel or whatever, this shouldn't be installed on anything period permalink fedilink source parent [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) You’re not getting it. Again: If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. Buying something does not mean you control it. You might have bought an Amazon Ring doorbell but if Amazon does not like your behavior they can (and will) render it dysfunctional. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) Ah magical slippery slope stuff any another product 🙄👌👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (3 children) No amount of money you pay for your phone up-front will make that malicious code magically go away. You can pay cash, and you can even tip the seller. The code that reduces your control remains in that device. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Lolol, nobody is using the API on my phone. Its existence doesn't harm me in the last bit. You should stop using Linux if the existence of remote management bothers you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re very trusting of your corporate overlords. I’m sure they are grateful for your steadfast loyalty and trust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (10 children) Which is why I bought my phone. See, my pixel doesn't have remote management. Shocking how that works when you don't choose to rent the phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) I also paid full price and bought it from an official store with no connection to any carriers. Installed grapheneos and can confirm it is still present, whether anyone can use it is not is irrelevant if your putting shit in my phone that could potentially harm me. And you seem to take some kind of weird moral ground thinking people who default on a payment can have their phone which is a necessity in this era, turn into a brick if they choose to. You're lucky you can afford to but be more empathetic to those who can't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nobody needs a pixel. There are plenty of phones far more inexpensive than pixels lol. I NEED A PIXEL TO LIVE! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Dude, he bought a full priced phone and the distributor preinstalled ransomeware on it. If you think this is acceptable just say it: "Distributors reserve the right to install ransomeware on the devices they sell." Just say that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Who's taking about pixel mate? We are taking about android here. Not the hardware but the simple fact that a device I paid for has harmful shit I didn't ask for. Pixel or whatever, this shouldn't be installed on anything period permalink fedilink source parent [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) You’re not getting it. Again: If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. Buying something does not mean you control it. You might have bought an Amazon Ring doorbell but if Amazon does not like your behavior they can (and will) render it dysfunctional. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) Ah magical slippery slope stuff any another product 🙄👌👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (3 children) No amount of money you pay for your phone up-front will make that malicious code magically go away. You can pay cash, and you can even tip the seller. The code that reduces your control remains in that device. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Lolol, nobody is using the API on my phone. Its existence doesn't harm me in the last bit. You should stop using Linux if the existence of remote management bothers you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re very trusting of your corporate overlords. I’m sure they are grateful for your steadfast loyalty and trust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) I also paid full price and bought it from an official store with no connection to any carriers. Installed grapheneos and can confirm it is still present, whether anyone can use it is not is irrelevant if your putting shit in my phone that could potentially harm me. And you seem to take some kind of weird moral ground thinking people who default on a payment can have their phone which is a necessity in this era, turn into a brick if they choose to. You're lucky you can afford to but be more empathetic to those who can't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nobody needs a pixel. There are plenty of phones far more inexpensive than pixels lol. I NEED A PIXEL TO LIVE! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Dude, he bought a full priced phone and the distributor preinstalled ransomeware on it. If you think this is acceptable just say it: "Distributors reserve the right to install ransomeware on the devices they sell." Just say that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Who's taking about pixel mate? We are taking about android here. Not the hardware but the simple fact that a device I paid for has harmful shit I didn't ask for. Pixel or whatever, this shouldn't be installed on anything period permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nobody needs a pixel. There are plenty of phones far more inexpensive than pixels lol. I NEED A PIXEL TO LIVE! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Dude, he bought a full priced phone and the distributor preinstalled ransomeware on it. If you think this is acceptable just say it: "Distributors reserve the right to install ransomeware on the devices they sell." Just say that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Who's taking about pixel mate? We are taking about android here. Not the hardware but the simple fact that a device I paid for has harmful shit I didn't ask for. Pixel or whatever, this shouldn't be installed on anything period permalink fedilink source parent
[–] owen@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Dude, he bought a full priced phone and the distributor preinstalled ransomeware on it. If you think this is acceptable just say it: "Distributors reserve the right to install ransomeware on the devices they sell." Just say that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Who's taking about pixel mate? We are taking about android here. Not the hardware but the simple fact that a device I paid for has harmful shit I didn't ask for. Pixel or whatever, this shouldn't be installed on anything period permalink fedilink source parent
[–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) You’re not getting it. Again: If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. Buying something does not mean you control it. You might have bought an Amazon Ring doorbell but if Amazon does not like your behavior they can (and will) render it dysfunctional. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) Ah magical slippery slope stuff any another product 🙄👌👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (3 children) No amount of money you pay for your phone up-front will make that malicious code magically go away. You can pay cash, and you can even tip the seller. The code that reduces your control remains in that device. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Lolol, nobody is using the API on my phone. Its existence doesn't harm me in the last bit. You should stop using Linux if the existence of remote management bothers you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re very trusting of your corporate overlords. I’m sure they are grateful for your steadfast loyalty and trust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) Ah magical slippery slope stuff any another product 🙄👌👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (3 children) No amount of money you pay for your phone up-front will make that malicious code magically go away. You can pay cash, and you can even tip the seller. The code that reduces your control remains in that device. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Lolol, nobody is using the API on my phone. Its existence doesn't harm me in the last bit. You should stop using Linux if the existence of remote management bothers you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re very trusting of your corporate overlords. I’m sure they are grateful for your steadfast loyalty and trust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (3 children) No amount of money you pay for your phone up-front will make that malicious code magically go away. You can pay cash, and you can even tip the seller. The code that reduces your control remains in that device. If you don’t control it, you don’t own it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Lolol, nobody is using the API on my phone. Its existence doesn't harm me in the last bit. You should stop using Linux if the existence of remote management bothers you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re very trusting of your corporate overlords. I’m sure they are grateful for your steadfast loyalty and trust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Lolol, nobody is using the API on my phone. Its existence doesn't harm me in the last bit. You should stop using Linux if the existence of remote management bothers you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re very trusting of your corporate overlords. I’m sure they are grateful for your steadfast loyalty and trust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] coffeeClean@infosec.pub [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re very trusting of your corporate overlords. I’m sure they are grateful for your steadfast loyalty and trust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You honestly don't know how this tech works, do you... permalink fedilink source parent