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Somebody made a post promoting the proprietary search engine they are working on, claiming in the post that it "would make Stallman smile". In a comment below the post they said that they made the statement about Stallman to "drive engagement". The post was later removed for promoting proprietary software.

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At the top is a screenshot from the modlog saying:

Removed Post We're building a search engine to compete with DuckDuckGo. No JS, no WASM, no spying. Just a statically generated results page.
reason: Comm rule 2: Don’t promote proprietary software

Below that is an image of Stallman smiling.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I replied to that thread.

OP was claiming to be working on a static HTML-serving search engine. They suggested that because it's just HTML and CSS, and that interested parties can use Inspect Element to read the network requests, that it constituted "open source".

Commenters then got on his case about not open sourcing the server backend. OP defended that choice saying they didn't want a competitor taking their code and building a company off of it that would "drive [them] out of business". Uh-huh. So, proprietary software, then. Bye.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Technically they are correct. None of the Open Source licenses really regulate what happens on the server. When it's not you running the binary, all the licenses are basically useless. AGPL is one of the few that address this a little bit, but even there you only get the source code itself, when the value in most online services is in the databases and backend stuff that you still don't get to access with AGPL.

The Free Software world hasn't figured out what to do with services running on computers you don't own. GDPR is so far the only thing does something about the server side, but that's EU law, not a license you can slap onto your software.

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