▲ 1049 ▼ California Cop Who Shot 18-Year-Old Had His Bodycam Off, But Surveillance Footage Captured Him Shooting Suspect in the Back as He Fled (wiredposts.com) submitted 2 years ago by MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world 181 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Somebody could potentially have been in danger later" doesn't justify murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] gum_dragon@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago Additionally, someone is innocent until proven guilty and that's not the cops job. The cop shot someone not guilty and now people are speculating about the crimes that person could have done to justify it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is an interesting ethical dilemma which I don't know if there's a clear cut answer. It's a variation of the trolley problem (sort of). I think it depends a lot on the risk assessment being made. I don't know the details of this particular case, but I can think of plenty of examples where a potential future danger should be limited by direct action. I'm happy to provide examples if you're interested in exploring this thought further. I don't know that I have a simple yes/no answer to this dilemma (also why I never became a cop). permalink fedilink source parent [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MorganLeFail@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago I dunno. Brandishing is a misdemeanor in CA and it doesn't sound like there was any probable cause to believe that the guy posed a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others. Seems like shooting someone in the back as they run away while discarding their weapon is questionable at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Running away from a traffic stop? Really? What's next? Jaywalking? You guys don't understand he just kept crossing the street! permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0Xero0@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Of course it doesn't because that "somebody" isn't someone you know. If that "someone" is your family, what do you suggest he do? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gum_dragon@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago Additionally, someone is innocent until proven guilty and that's not the cops job. The cop shot someone not guilty and now people are speculating about the crimes that person could have done to justify it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is an interesting ethical dilemma which I don't know if there's a clear cut answer. It's a variation of the trolley problem (sort of). I think it depends a lot on the risk assessment being made. I don't know the details of this particular case, but I can think of plenty of examples where a potential future danger should be limited by direct action. I'm happy to provide examples if you're interested in exploring this thought further. I don't know that I have a simple yes/no answer to this dilemma (also why I never became a cop). permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MorganLeFail@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago I dunno. Brandishing is a misdemeanor in CA and it doesn't sound like there was any probable cause to believe that the guy posed a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others. Seems like shooting someone in the back as they run away while discarding their weapon is questionable at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Running away from a traffic stop? Really? What's next? Jaywalking? You guys don't understand he just kept crossing the street! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MorganLeFail@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago I dunno. Brandishing is a misdemeanor in CA and it doesn't sound like there was any probable cause to believe that the guy posed a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others. Seems like shooting someone in the back as they run away while discarding their weapon is questionable at best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Running away from a traffic stop? Really? What's next? Jaywalking? You guys don't understand he just kept crossing the street! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0Xero0@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Of course it doesn't because that "somebody" isn't someone you know. If that "someone" is your family, what do you suggest he do? permalink fedilink source parent