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Changing consumer habits could spell the end of bagged milk (ottawa.ctvnews.ca)
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"Consumption of milk per capita has gone down every year over the last 30 years," says Sylvain Charlebois, director of the Agri-Food Analytics Lab at Dalhousie University. "Actually, it's gone down by more than 20 per cent since 2015."

While bagged milk is often cited as a unique Canadianism, it's actually not sold west of Ontario. Those who prefer it, however, say it's more cost efficient and some even believe it tastes better.

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[–] 76 points 2 years ago (30 children)

Glass's issue is transportation cost, so you'll want to make milk supply more local...wait a minute, this is starting to sound like commie shit

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    We have glass bottle milk in vancouver area. $1-$2 deposit on the bottle, good incentive to return it when you get your new bottle.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I don't know if I can sarcastically say 'sounds like commie shit' any harder before it would sound like I'm actually against it

    That does sound fantastic. How's the shelf(/fridge) life of the milk?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    Used to live across the border in Southern BC. Had access to a glass-bottled, "cream-top" (non-homogenized) milk from a local dairy. Fridge life was in-line with regular jugs. Plus, it tasted better and was likely healthier ([EDIT: have not found verification for this at this time] homogenized milk contains fat globules small enough to directly absorb into the bloodstream without digestion, possibly contributing to heart disease).

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Do you have a source for the fat molecules bit? That is a wild assertion, crazy if true. But I'm pretty sure fat doesn't work like that.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was thinking the same thing. Fat isn't water (read:blood) soluble, and I have a hard time imagining any significant amount emulsing into your blood stream

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Indeed. It is worth noting that fat globules in dairy aren't JUST lipid. They are really a mixture of lipids, glycolipids, proteins, and other stuff. The glycolipids and proteins have polar and non-polar parts and organize into a membrane around the non-polar (hydrophobic) lipid fraction, keeping it from precipitating out of solution. Effectively, milk fat globules come with their own emulsifiers.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Have been looking for a reputable source on that - busy on work projects. Might be something that has been shown to be bunk at this point. I did, however, find a few recent interesting papers characterizing the physical structural changes that occur with homogenization. IIRC, the average globule size gets reduced to ~1ΞΌm in diameter.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Okay so it's false information, that's what you're saying.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I would say that it's currently unverified and potentially bunk. Have updated the comment to note this and will do so again if I'm not able to find supporting (non-opinion) academic papers. Thank you for asking for evidence and making me reexamine something that I "know".

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Fuck it let's make our own milk at this point

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    My wife says no cows, because apparently I underestimate the amount of milk a cow makes. I'm gonna have to get used to goat milk

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or just oats?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    It is much easier to raise a goat on a small acreage than it is to farm enough oats to extract a worthwhile amount of oat milk.

    Also, haven't liked any oat milk I've tried. To be fair I don't like goat milk either, but it is much closer to what I'm used to, and would definitely be easier to get used to

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    There is NextMilk and NotMilk brands., both formulated to be similar to actual milk in texture, and taste. You won't be "Wow, I can't believe it's not milk" But it is surprising close compared to oat, soy, or almond milks

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    That doesn't exactly help

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    As in your love of actual cow milk, or the oats takes a lot of farming debate? Not Milk is like pineapple juice cabbage juice and other components that somehow come together to work like milk.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Oats take a lot of space and equipment to farm, and any brand name anything doesn't help; the idea here was self-sufficiency

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ah, I see. Goat milk takes some getting used to. Good luck on the self-sufficiency. We had a half acre before for veggies, and a giant pear tree which made good Perry every year.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There was a local dairy in my hometown and they had a little shack set up on the road where you could buy bottles of milk. It was the best milk I've ever drunk in my life.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    There's a dairy in my city that's really taking off in recent years with the same glass approach too. A lot of restaurants, cafes, etc all using their stuff now and if their social media following is any indication then a fair bit of regular consumers too. I like to remain optimistic that stuff like this continues to inspire more sustainable, local food and beverage companies.

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