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[–] 47 points 2 years ago (62 children)

sadly, masking yourself when protesting is forbidden here in my country :c

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Facepaint? Some designs can confound facial recognition systems

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    But it won't protect against tear gas or rubber bullets.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Ironically neither does a mask?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    Not a balaclava, but there are goggles and full-face masks that offer some protection. And even a balaclava is better than nothing against rubber bullets and bean bags.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I have been shot with a bean bag. Balaclava isn't going to do shit. I was wearing a leather coat and almost my whole torso was deeply bruised.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It doesn't help that cops purposefully misuse those types of guns. If I recall correctly, they're supposed to "bounce" the round off the ground and into the target, reducing the total amount of force hitting the target since some of the impact will be reduced from the first impact on the ground.

    The number of cops who just shoot people straight with these things point blank is too god damned high. However, you can still get deeply fucked up, even if they're using it "correctly."

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I didn't say it wouldn't leave a bruise. Even solid armor plates won't stop that amount of kinetic energy without leaving a mark. But having soft padding between the projectile and your skin will reduce the abrasion and force of low-angle impacts. "Better than nothing" in this case means the difference between a deep bruise, and a deep bruise under potentially an open and bleeding wound.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (48 children)

    It kinda makes sense, protests are supposed to be peaceful, why bring a mask if your intent is a peaceful protest?

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (37 children)

    Protest is never peaceful, if it is you're doing it wrong. It should be non-violent and as respectful as possible but it needs to be disruptive and you can't be peacefully disruptive

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (36 children)

    Peaceful and non-violent are synonyms….

    You also contradict yourself as well. You say to be non-violent, then you say you can’t be peacefully disruptive… those contradict each other.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    If me and my fellow protestors block a road, we are being non-violent, but we are being disruptive.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And that is peaceful as well, until it isn’t.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    ...and in 99% of the cases where it stops being "peaceful" it's because cops come in and violently assault everyone to try to break up the protest.

    I'm really not sure of the point you're trying to make. Protest can be peaceful, non-violent and disruptive.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There have been events where nazis show up to counter protest and film/photograph you to then share among themselves so they can attack you later.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Thats happening a lot lately in Germany. At every fucking Antifa protest at least one suspicious looking guy films with his handy. I honestly doubt, that they have the necessary skill and contact with other fascists in other cities to identify everybody, but I still don‘t want them to know my face

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Masks are no indicator of criminality. The idea that bad protesters wear masks is complete horseshit. It serves to divide movements and prevent momentum from being gained. It seeks to dissolve solidarity that couls have been gained at the protests.

    Masks allow peaceful protests to remain peaceful if they prevent the violence of the justice system. Sometimes protesters and organizers are simply arrested and thrown in jail for a bit, sometimes even given nonsense charges, which is something that happens to organizers and some protesters in my area.

    As well as that, masks can simply be good secops in some counter-protests such as protesting against fascist marches, gatherings, etc. If I’m showing up to show nazis or boogaloos or proud boys that they are unwelcome, the last thing I want is a violent right wing extremist group to try and doxx me. If I’m escorting people to a drag-queen story hour, I don’t want fascists to doxx me.

    It’s also smart in some areas, such as Harvard’s campus where organizers are constantly doxxed and accused of antisemitism even though they are not.

    Finally, what if the government makes your particular movement illegal? What if they start throwing the book people, accusing everyone involved(or at least the ones they can catch) of domestic terrorism? Wearing a mask will make it a lot easier for you to maintain your freedom when faced with the tyrrany of the state.

    Also, masks look cool, and that’s a pretty good reason imo.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    "Peaceful protest" is the ideal they push because it doesn't work. If it worked it wouldn't be praised. They don't want change.

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