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Something something Biden bad (lemmy.world)
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"Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" [Y/N]

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[+] -13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

none of your fucking business. and before you accuse me of fascism, remember it's the fascists and authoritarians who demand blind loyalty and vote checks.

I can of course recognize trump is worse than biden. I can also recognize that Biden is still bad, and call that bullshit out. Perhaps Biden should maybe recognize; like any human with a fucking soul that genocide is fucking bad and maybe do what he can to stop it. So far; all we have is vague promises and platitudes while sending increasing amounts of money and arms to the genocidal dickfucks.

congratulations, you provoked me. troll.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I dont need your hate. But Democracy needs your vote.

    Torch him for Palestine all you want, AFTER Trump is in the ground and the GOP crumbles.

    If you cant swallow your pride, then you deserve MAGAmerica.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Don't negotiate till you have zero leverage!

    Neoliberals sure are something else, you all should really help Americans and open car dealerships with those negotiating skills.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    If your idea of negotiation is the equivalent of drilling holes in the boat while we are all at sea, you are a terrible negotiator.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The primary is the only time to drag Biden left, and even then it's likely he ignores his campaign promises if elected.

    Telling people they can't even do that, is just going to make them give up and become disengaged.

    Biden isn't a strong enough candidate to do that, he barely beat trump last election. He had plenty of popular votes extra, but because the electoral college is a thing, if trump got like 30k more votes in 3 states, Trump would have won again. Biden needs every vote he can get.

    Pretending everything will be fine so we don't have to do anything doesn't work for climate change and it doesn't work for elections.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No one is pretending everything is fine, we are just in triage mode for democracy and are trying to save the patient first because the alternative is massively worse.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    By slapping the patient and saying they need to lose weight before they treat their bullet wounds.
    Everything is mismatched responses and no one listens to anything but themselves and their echo chamber anymore.

    It's not bad advice to vote for the obviously not fascist wannabe but it's not gonna be the best advice when we can see his polling numbers are fucking atrocious, and the beatings aren't getting those numbers back up. No one is just talking to the American people and asking what their symptoms are and building a plan from it. It's all just assumed but no one seems to be actually on the same page.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The difference is I'm talking about how to save American democracy...

    And you're talking about how to trick people into voting for the oldest person to ever run for US President.

    Biden only has to be the candidate because the DNC says so. They're not good at picking candidates if you haven't noticed. Because they care more about donors and fancy fundraisers than getting votes.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    By making sure the one candidate that has the support of the most anti democratic forces is elected.

    Bold strategy, Cotton…

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    If the only positive for a candidate is that he's not the other candidate...

    And polling is pointing toward an incredibly close race because of that...

    Maybe you should also be helping ring the alarm bells while there's still time to run literally anyone else so we don't have to deal with four more years of trump?

    Or are you just going to ignore all warnings and then act shocked and blame everyone with the common sense to warn you before it was too late?

    I hope you make the one pick that would actually help our chances, but I'll never hear what you picked.

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  • [+] -14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    To be honest maybe America does deserve Trump. Biden is no where near as bad as Trump but maybe when your countries leadership boils down to choosing one keeping the status quo while genociding or the other being a fascists while genociding you don't really deserve anything good.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm sorry, are you saying that millions of people, including children, all deserve to suffer because their establishment sucks?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We elect our establishment. We don't live in a dictatorship. You can't argue that we collectively aren't somewhat responsible for who we put in office.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    We are, to a point. US election system is particularly bad in representation, what with gerrymandering and voters disenfranchising, but even if it wasn't it's callous to say people deserve to suffer because they don't understand what they're voting for.

    You're speaking from a position of privilege.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    it's callous to say people deserve to suffer because they don't understand what they're voting for.

    How? Will live in age were information is more freely available than in any other part of history. It's your responsibility to be an informed voter. Ignorance isn't an excuse to give your vote away.

    You're speaking from a position of privilege.

    As Americans we all are. We don't live in a monarchy or a military dictatorship. Everyone is screaming about how important this election is for democracy but democracy is how we got here. Every person who instituted policies that encouraged voter disenfranchising and gerrymandering was voted in. Those who decided not to challenge these policies and kept the status quo were voted in. Facism doesn't happen overnight. In a lot of cases the populace genuinely asks for it

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Nice take, you should tell it to the women who could die if there was a nationwide abortion ban, or maybe someone in the LGBT community that Trump wants to put in camps. I'm sure they'll love to hear that they deserve it.

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