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What the title says. Before you had to choose either SMS / call via phone or a very clunky code grid.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Unfortunately I think this is the norm with big banks in Canada, and it is similar to a credit union in the US from when I briefly lived there. Security seems to be a second priority to people losing access (presumably only briefly, since they have brick and mortar locations everywhere).

Wealthsimple and Questrade seem to support TOTP but I’m not sure if you can still bypass it with SMS. I don’t think so but I haven’t dug into it.

I’ve used CIBC before and they also seem to require keeping SMS 2FA enabled. Also they send me fraud alerts over SMS, “respond Y to authorize this suspicious transaction”, and I’m dreading the day where I have to enable roaming while travelling just to send a text. They send push notifications through the app to login on a new device though, so maybe in 10 years they’ll do it for transaction approval too.

Also aside about TD: is there really no way to download a CSV file of all your transactions? My partner uses them and I think we were limited to 18 months, and may have even had to download each much separately (luckily I can use use a program like cat to workaround this, but that seems like a pain for most people). CIBC has irritated me in a lot of ways but I think I can download transactions from back to 2012 when I first opened my credit card, maybe earlier.

Do you or anyone know about other big banks? My partner and I are looking into a joint account and I want to be able to download all transactions to CSV. Ideally we could get TOTP only (no SMS 2FA) but I’m not counting on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wealthsimple and Questrade seem to support TOTP but I’m not sure if you can still bypass it with SMS. I don’t think so but I haven’t dug into it.

Questrade allows TOTP, SMS and some other methods, but you can select which ones you want to enable. I have only TOTP and it works as expected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I suspected this (I only see “authenticator app” when I log in on a new device or periodically, but I wasn’t sure.

Related: for finance related services like Questrade, I’ve stored my TOTP keys on a U2F key, Yubico in my case. Besides the hassle of managing physical keys, is there any drawback to this approach? I’m slightly worried I’ll lose all my keys in a house fire or something, but I assume there’s a recovery option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That I don't know. I store the TOTP keys into an app on my phone an into a separated KeePass DB that's different from my regular one. Two copies of that is good enough to let me sleep at night.

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