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Pros of golf carts and neighborhood electric vehicles (NEVs) replacing all private cars within a city:

  • Only goes as fast as a bicycle, so isn't a viable suburban commuter vehicle, meaning you'll probably only take it to the nearest transit station
  • Only goes as fast as a bicycle, so isn't likely to kill people
  • Excellent visibility, so less likely to run over children
  • Much smaller and lighter, so building parking garages for park-and-rides would be a lot cheaper and less objectionable than with our current style of cars
  • Electric
  • Smaller batteries than jumbo EVs
  • Compatible with dense, transit-oriented city development
  • Could be installed with mandatory speed limiters

Cons:

  • Less profit for GM and ExxonMobil
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Some people have never had to balance two massive bags of chicken feed and a propane tank on a rusty bicycle with a bent wheel and it shows.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Some people also don't have physical disabilities or family members with them, and it really shows. Bikes are great, and we absolutely should be encouraging bike use, but the automobile is, frankly, a necessity for millions of people. We shouldn't be getting rid of wheelchairs, either. I swear, sometimes I feel like the fuck cars community is basically anprim. Yes, fuck cars, yes fuck car culture, but jimminy crickets they're not evil. Our use of us them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not excuse, but thanks for being dismissive of disabilities that might be different to your own. I'm not pawning you off as anything, and I do think we need massive reform and restructuring. But motorized wheelchairs are not a viable solution to someone who needs to get to a doctor's office 20 miles away, nor are busses a solution to someone who has severe difficulty being outside of their home for hours on end. Should most of us be driving? No. Should no one be using cars? Also no.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't respect your argument because it assumes I'm trying to get rid of cars. I'm not, I'm trying to get rid of unnecessary car ownership / usage.

Did you know that taxis exist? Did you know that in many danish municipalities, it's completely normal for the municipality to own and operate several minibusses to ferry people who otherwise can't get around? Now you do. Now you can stop pretending that disabled people are a crutch to learn your devils-advocacy, or whatever that is, on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I'm not pretending anything. You're entire attitude is hostile and I'm done talking to you.

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