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Tipping culture npcs (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
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[–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well because the struggling people are blaming you when you don't tip. They should blame the restaurant owner. But they blame the diner instead.

That's why people take servers/waiters as the "enemy"

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How about we all agree that restaurant owners are the enemy? I don't care that the 20 year old server working for the weekend doesn't understand the nuance of the labor they engage in. They're being exploited and you think that they're the root cause of tipping culture, when in fact, it's always been the restaurant owners.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I think you're deliberately misinterpreting what I'm saying. I am saying they should blame the restaurant owner.

    But it certainly doesn't help the situation when the server is blaming you and being hostile because you didn't tip enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Doesn't matter who gets blamed, if things were corrupt (correct) the customer would be paying the same amount as tipping that much. Tipping culture just gives the customer a chance to shirk.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well if you are calling it "shirk" then it's basically required. If it's required why even give the illusion of a choice?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's my point. Tipping culture is stupid.

    Consumers should pay the cost to consume, including materials, operations and staffing.

    It's not an illusion of choice, it is a choice, and a choice that abuses workers and confuses customers.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The thing is the consumers are paying the cost. The business owners are just taking more of the profits. They just need to pay the workers more.

    And the "choice" you mention is a false one. People can't really refuse to pay a tip, can they? They'll get a lot of hostility from the staff (who have been brainwashed to think that it's the customers' responsibility). Notice that this isn't really a thing outside the US.

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