▲ 1052 ▼ Tipping culture npcs (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 663 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 77 points 2 years ago (48 children) I just stopped going to places or using services that expect me to tip. I hate the idea of tipping. permalink fedilink source hideshow 51 child comments replies: [–] rsuri@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (5 children) I look at it as Actual price = menu price + lowest suggested tip + $5 tip awkwardness penalty. So a place near me has a $12 lunch-size sub sandwich that's really good. But they ask for a 15% tip. So rather than just never eat at my favorite sandwich spot, I regard it as a $18.80 lunch and only buy it on rare occasions or when my company is paying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago You're tipping at a sandwich shop? Do they even bring you the sandwich and fill your drink for you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You tip a fastfood? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If I'm getting it to go, no tip. Or just the tip. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Same. I multiply any restaurant price by 4/3 to account for taxes, fees, and tips when determining if I want to go. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Taxes and fees should included in the price, in civilised countries anyway. That sounds like such a pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are included in the price in civilized countries. It is only a very very limited number of places where you can't hand a cashier $5 to pay for something literally labelled $5 and then walk out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think the guy you replied to is from the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago I hate American math permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) Going anyway and just not tipping is also a completely acceptable and legally protected option. Sort of like saying 'no thank you' to the grocery store check out person asking for charity donations or if you would like to sign up for the store credit card. Again, it's optional. So people can also say 'yes' if they want and that's cool too I guess. Although tipping is inherently harmful to the server's baseline wage which is a bit problematic, if people want to tip they can and no one is stopping them. And I won't give them shit about it unless they specifically inquire about it. Since the whole thing is 'optional' after all I let them make their own decisions and if tipping gives them a nice release of serotonin or dopamine or something that makes them feel better, who am I to take that from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] fathog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just don’t eat out if you don’t want to tip. Tipping culture is fucked but servers are just as victimized as customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is a valid choice. What isn't valid is still going out to restaurants, having a gay ol time, and then refusing to tip your server on principle while the owner did nothing and made a killing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JCreazy@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago* (6 children) I'm not really a big fan of this rhetoric. People should be able to go to a restaurant and eat without being expected to pay more than what their food costs. They shouldn't be shamed for not wanting to tip. This becomes an issue of personal morality which is why I just don't eat out, but I don't think it's anyone else's business except for the person spending the money since it is their money after all. It's not a customer's responsibility to make up the pay of a business's employee. PERIOD. Basically what I'm saying is I don't go places that expect me to tip but I 100% support people's decisions to go to restaurants and not tip because that is their right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (45 replies)
[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (5 children) I look at it as Actual price = menu price + lowest suggested tip + $5 tip awkwardness penalty. So a place near me has a $12 lunch-size sub sandwich that's really good. But they ask for a 15% tip. So rather than just never eat at my favorite sandwich spot, I regard it as a $18.80 lunch and only buy it on rare occasions or when my company is paying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago You're tipping at a sandwich shop? Do they even bring you the sandwich and fill your drink for you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You tip a fastfood? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If I'm getting it to go, no tip. Or just the tip. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Same. I multiply any restaurant price by 4/3 to account for taxes, fees, and tips when determining if I want to go. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Taxes and fees should included in the price, in civilised countries anyway. That sounds like such a pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are included in the price in civilized countries. It is only a very very limited number of places where you can't hand a cashier $5 to pay for something literally labelled $5 and then walk out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think the guy you replied to is from the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago I hate American math permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago You're tipping at a sandwich shop? Do they even bring you the sandwich and fill your drink for you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If I'm getting it to go, no tip. Or just the tip. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Same. I multiply any restaurant price by 4/3 to account for taxes, fees, and tips when determining if I want to go. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Taxes and fees should included in the price, in civilised countries anyway. That sounds like such a pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are included in the price in civilized countries. It is only a very very limited number of places where you can't hand a cashier $5 to pay for something literally labelled $5 and then walk out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think the guy you replied to is from the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago I hate American math permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Taxes and fees should included in the price, in civilised countries anyway. That sounds like such a pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are included in the price in civilized countries. It is only a very very limited number of places where you can't hand a cashier $5 to pay for something literally labelled $5 and then walk out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think the guy you replied to is from the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are included in the price in civilized countries. It is only a very very limited number of places where you can't hand a cashier $5 to pay for something literally labelled $5 and then walk out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think the guy you replied to is from the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think the guy you replied to is from the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago I hate American math permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) Going anyway and just not tipping is also a completely acceptable and legally protected option. Sort of like saying 'no thank you' to the grocery store check out person asking for charity donations or if you would like to sign up for the store credit card. Again, it's optional. So people can also say 'yes' if they want and that's cool too I guess. Although tipping is inherently harmful to the server's baseline wage which is a bit problematic, if people want to tip they can and no one is stopping them. And I won't give them shit about it unless they specifically inquire about it. Since the whole thing is 'optional' after all I let them make their own decisions and if tipping gives them a nice release of serotonin or dopamine or something that makes them feel better, who am I to take that from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] fathog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just don’t eat out if you don’t want to tip. Tipping culture is fucked but servers are just as victimized as customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] fathog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just don’t eat out if you don’t want to tip. Tipping culture is fucked but servers are just as victimized as customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is a valid choice. What isn't valid is still going out to restaurants, having a gay ol time, and then refusing to tip your server on principle while the owner did nothing and made a killing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JCreazy@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago* (6 children) I'm not really a big fan of this rhetoric. People should be able to go to a restaurant and eat without being expected to pay more than what their food costs. They shouldn't be shamed for not wanting to tip. This becomes an issue of personal morality which is why I just don't eat out, but I don't think it's anyone else's business except for the person spending the money since it is their money after all. It's not a customer's responsibility to make up the pay of a business's employee. PERIOD. Basically what I'm saying is I don't go places that expect me to tip but I 100% support people's decisions to go to restaurants and not tip because that is their right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies)
[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago* (6 children) I'm not really a big fan of this rhetoric. People should be able to go to a restaurant and eat without being expected to pay more than what their food costs. They shouldn't be shamed for not wanting to tip. This becomes an issue of personal morality which is why I just don't eat out, but I don't think it's anyone else's business except for the person spending the money since it is their money after all. It's not a customer's responsibility to make up the pay of a business's employee. PERIOD. Basically what I'm saying is I don't go places that expect me to tip but I 100% support people's decisions to go to restaurants and not tip because that is their right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies)