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Amnesty International finds no evidence of military targets at Rafah sites targeted by Israel (thehill.com)
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[–] 15 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Does it really matter. when a country Like South Africa puts a solid case before the ICJ with solid documented proof about all genocidal attacks on civilians. The ICJ and the international community prefers to look away. and instead tells Israel to be more careful "next time", as if what has been committed isn't already enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    Did you actually read the ICJ report, or are you copying someone else?

    Because the incredibly detailed, balanced report does not say Israel is committing genocide, yet theses are the only two words from the report I ever see repeated.

    Among other things, it states:

    • there are significant concerns from both sides on human right issues, war crime and individual conduct.

    • there are credible claims that Israels actions can amount to genocide, and a call for a pause to conflict so claims can be investigated. Noting that 1, individual actions aren't genocide, Israel has legal defenses on some that are claimed to be genocide that are being debated (namely attacks on civilian infrastructure and blocking aid).

    • Hamas is using civilian structures to conduct its own operations, putting civilians at risk.

    • Israel is destroying structures hamas is using, which is not a war crime. Notably, Hamas is a designated terrorist organization and its militants are not protected citizens anywhere, including hospitals and temples.

    • Hamas should immediately release all hostages unconditionally.

    Two words from a massive detailed report. Noting on Hamas issues, nothing on Israel actions that are still being debated, nothing on the call to release all hostages immediately. If you want to discuss the best report to come out of this conflict, discuss it in its entirety and context - stop cherry picking facts that support your narrative.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Did you actually read the ICJ report, or are you copying someone else? [...] report does not say Israel is committing genocide [...] stop cherry picking facts that support your narrative.

    South Africa Full Case Application Against Israel

    CTRL F "114." "117." "118." "119."

    Every accusation is a confession.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Do you have a better link, that one keeps repeating verification?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    You have read the publically available report, so you should already know what's inside, or at the very least, how to access it, no?

    The URL previously provided links directly to the source, hosted by the official ICJ website itself. If you are still having trouble getting past the bot verification, maybe it is time to take the hint.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They are tying their tongues in knots when the answer to South Africa's case is really simple. Israel "IS COMITTING GENOCIDE" and it should stop.

    there are significant concerns from both sides on human right issues, war crime and individual conduct.

    it is Like saying we have heard you but Israel needs to finish the job here. So here is a token for All of you Allies Of Israel, Let's All act concerned about Human rights violations and respecting international law so we can buy them more Time. and if any faction of your citizens criticize your inaction, you can refer to our decision as we are the sole jurors of international law.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So you are now arguing against the report you just championed as the final word in this conflicts actions? Where you are arguing against your own source?

    SA did an amazing job brings facts and reason into a cluster fuck of poor knowledge, propaganda and assumptions without investigation. There are systems in place - let democracy, law and order do its job

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    let democracy, law and order do its job

    As if the Entity currently committing Genocide isn't considered a democracy. Or the one which invaded Iraq under the lie of them having nuclear weapons isn't a democracy, and has resulted in hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths. or millions of death caused by colonialism of "European Domocracies" the biggest of which is the UK. I can go on and on about what democracies have committed around the world. you can still use it to pat yourselves on the back. but if you take a honest look you will see that democracies aren't inherently better than other forms when it comes to criminal and imperialist conduct.

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