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TV producers wanted AI rights of extras forever, says union (www.theregister.com)

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[-] [email protected] 132 points 2 years ago

Sadly, I think they will get them, one way or another.

All it will take is a handful of people desperate for money agreeing to be 3d scanned, and maybe a few months of interns saying yes/no to particular faces, and bam, hundreds of extras ready to be used and abused for decades to cover.

[-] [email protected] 118 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Which is why these union negotiations are so important. Sure, that will probably happen. But if SAG-AFTRA says they can’t be used on union shows, well, they won’t be lol

When I first started in film any time I had a SAG actor there were requirements I had to adhere to for their pay and hours, no exceptions. And I live in a right to work state!

[+] [email protected] -39 points 2 years ago

But if SAG-AFTRA says they can’t be used on union shows, well, they won’t be lol

Union shows immidiately get outcompeted by AI generation and all studios doing business with them go out of business.

AI is the future here guys. Union won't stop it. They'll just drag Hollywood down with them.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There’s a difference between “no AI allowed” (not what the unions are calling for) and “contracts need stipulations about AI usage” (reasonable).

If you are not familiar with what is actually being negotiated over, then please don’t weigh in. WGA/SAG-AFTRA are not calling for an AI ban. Every time these debates come up armchair AI “advocates” swarm like cryptobros to call everyone backwards/ignorant/resistant to change regardless of the context.

[-] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago

There’s a difference between “no AI allowed” (not what the unions are calling for) and “contracts need stipulations about AI usage”

If those contacts include paying actors as much as they would have needed to act and restricting it's usage when writing scripts the difference is moot. If your erase all benefit to using AI it becomes worthless.

[+] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

They 100 percent want to reduce AI usage so that writers can't be automated away.

Mr. August, a screenwriter for movies like “Charlie’s Angels” and “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,” said that while artificial intelligence had taken a back seat to compensation in the Writers Guild negotiation, the union was making two key demands on the subject of automation.

It wants to ensure that no literary material — scripts, treatments, outlines or even discrete scenes — can be written or rewritten by chatbots. “A terrible case of like, ‘Oh, I read through your scripts, I didn’t like the scene, so I had ChatGPT rewrite the scene’ — that’s the nightmare scenario,” Mr. August said.

The guild also wants to ensure that studios can’t use chatbots to generate source material that is adapted to the screen by humans, the way they might adapt a novel or a magazine story.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/29/business/media/writers-guild-hollywood-ai-chatgpt.html

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They 100 percent want to reduce AI usage

Yes I agree. That is what I’ve been saying this entire time.

I don’t see the problem. Want to use AI to fart out cheap written content or highjack someone’s script? Don’t use the studio system. It’s never been easier to shoot and distribute without Hollywood/unions.

Either way, AI isn’t banned from Hollywood. They are calling for regulation on specific use cases involving union writers.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Reduce =/= ban

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