▲ 751 ▼ Kenneth Smith ‘struggled for life’ for 22 minutes in Alabama nitrogen gas execution: Updates (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org to c/news@lemmy.world 581 comments fedilink hide all child comments “Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.” Pretty compassionate way to kill a person. Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.
[+] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That message might be more effective if it weren't associated with a weird doomsday cult that most people don't like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I had no idea Albert Einstein was in a doomsday cult. Now. Should I believe a space cowboy on the internet; or one of the most intelligent people to have ever lived? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) Marxists believe in a destiny where there's a complete failure of society. Late-stage capitalism and all that. There will be a great revolution, lots of people will die. Doomsday. It's inevitable. It's destined to happen. But much like revelations, there will be a judgment day, but instead of Jesus there will a dictatorship of the proletariat. But that will fade away. Like a rapture or something like that. And then we will have heaven on earth, a worker's paradise for all eternity. It has been prophesized by some weirdo with a big beard 200 years ago. It was written, so it shall be! Soviet Union? That doesn't count! The stars weren't aligned properly and they were doing too much farming and not enough factory work. Well they did have factories, but things happened in the incorrect order. The prophecy from the man with the big beard specified the exact order things would happen in and the Soviet Union didn't follow that order precisely! It doesn't count! The prophecy of the man with the big beard will happen any day now! We've seen the signs. LATE. STAGE. CAPITALISM. Our destiny is upon us! Any day now! Marxism LOL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You, sir, have made my day. This is worthy of Reddit Gold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ever heard the phrase "Socialism or Barbarism"? Marxists don't believe socialism is an inevitable result of the end of capitalism. Socialism has to be built, the entire theory of Marxism is that we observe the history of the world (i.e. the history of class struggle) and, rather than waiting around for history to happen on its own, we intelligently act on historical forces and cultivate a better world we want to live in. If we just wait around for capitalism to collapse on its own, i.e. wait for what comes after late stage capitalism, we might all die. Capitalism could very well collapse into a post-apocalyptic hell where a few million survivors huddle around the poles to survive. Or just a nuclear war and total human extinction. Or a fascist Mars colony where only the elite are allowed to escape Earth. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, I understand that you believe in an inevitable doomsday and it's all based on some complicated system you've devised from reading the texts or whatever. But that's what every doomsday cult says. Do the texts specify date for the end times? I like the doomsday cults that do that because when the date comes and goes it's kinda funny. But I guess marxists don't do that otherwise it would've died out a long time ago. Capitalism sucks but it outlasted the Soviet Union. Capitalism also outlasted a hell of a lot of college professors that believed in it. Most people just grow out of it when they realize how silly the whole thing is. Others grow old thinking "any day now." The reality is no one really knows where things are headed. People find it comforting to hear from people that act like they're certain of the future. Even if the future they talk about is a doomsday. But it's all bullshit, no one knows the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago What we observe in capitalism is that it depletes resources as fast as possible in order to maximize profit. That's obviously impossible on a finite planet, and that's why we're running into real limits because of climate change. "The texts" are just the scientific observations on when the ice caps and glaciers will be gone, when the fossil fuels will be too expensive to continue, when the rainforests will be gone, when the top soil will be depleted, when the oceans will acidify too much to support shellfish and corals, etc etc. Saying we can't predict any of these things is unscientific. You're like a mystified peasant that refuses to believe feudalism will ever end. Next you'll say that some magical technology will solve all those problems and save us, and that is just blind faith in a cult of progress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago They are beyond our understanding. They’re like a fire juggler at a luau. It’s best to not get in their way while they’re working. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prosp3kt@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will always have some crazy evil mfucker even if you give them all of it. There were a gang in my country from mid class families that robbed houses. They went in a van and stole until the last TV. Human CAN BE evil by nature. It happens in other species too. Bears kill salmon just for pleasure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mental illnesses will never be eliminated, but can be managed. Raising material wealth in society will never eradicate crime, but it will lessen its likelihood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That message might be more effective if it weren't associated with a weird doomsday cult that most people don't like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I had no idea Albert Einstein was in a doomsday cult. Now. Should I believe a space cowboy on the internet; or one of the most intelligent people to have ever lived? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) Marxists believe in a destiny where there's a complete failure of society. Late-stage capitalism and all that. There will be a great revolution, lots of people will die. Doomsday. It's inevitable. It's destined to happen. But much like revelations, there will be a judgment day, but instead of Jesus there will a dictatorship of the proletariat. But that will fade away. Like a rapture or something like that. And then we will have heaven on earth, a worker's paradise for all eternity. It has been prophesized by some weirdo with a big beard 200 years ago. It was written, so it shall be! Soviet Union? That doesn't count! The stars weren't aligned properly and they were doing too much farming and not enough factory work. Well they did have factories, but things happened in the incorrect order. The prophecy from the man with the big beard specified the exact order things would happen in and the Soviet Union didn't follow that order precisely! It doesn't count! The prophecy of the man with the big beard will happen any day now! We've seen the signs. LATE. STAGE. CAPITALISM. Our destiny is upon us! Any day now! Marxism LOL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You, sir, have made my day. This is worthy of Reddit Gold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ever heard the phrase "Socialism or Barbarism"? Marxists don't believe socialism is an inevitable result of the end of capitalism. Socialism has to be built, the entire theory of Marxism is that we observe the history of the world (i.e. the history of class struggle) and, rather than waiting around for history to happen on its own, we intelligently act on historical forces and cultivate a better world we want to live in. If we just wait around for capitalism to collapse on its own, i.e. wait for what comes after late stage capitalism, we might all die. Capitalism could very well collapse into a post-apocalyptic hell where a few million survivors huddle around the poles to survive. Or just a nuclear war and total human extinction. Or a fascist Mars colony where only the elite are allowed to escape Earth. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, I understand that you believe in an inevitable doomsday and it's all based on some complicated system you've devised from reading the texts or whatever. But that's what every doomsday cult says. Do the texts specify date for the end times? I like the doomsday cults that do that because when the date comes and goes it's kinda funny. But I guess marxists don't do that otherwise it would've died out a long time ago. Capitalism sucks but it outlasted the Soviet Union. Capitalism also outlasted a hell of a lot of college professors that believed in it. Most people just grow out of it when they realize how silly the whole thing is. Others grow old thinking "any day now." The reality is no one really knows where things are headed. People find it comforting to hear from people that act like they're certain of the future. Even if the future they talk about is a doomsday. But it's all bullshit, no one knows the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago What we observe in capitalism is that it depletes resources as fast as possible in order to maximize profit. That's obviously impossible on a finite planet, and that's why we're running into real limits because of climate change. "The texts" are just the scientific observations on when the ice caps and glaciers will be gone, when the fossil fuels will be too expensive to continue, when the rainforests will be gone, when the top soil will be depleted, when the oceans will acidify too much to support shellfish and corals, etc etc. Saying we can't predict any of these things is unscientific. You're like a mystified peasant that refuses to believe feudalism will ever end. Next you'll say that some magical technology will solve all those problems and save us, and that is just blind faith in a cult of progress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago They are beyond our understanding. They’re like a fire juggler at a luau. It’s best to not get in their way while they’re working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I had no idea Albert Einstein was in a doomsday cult. Now. Should I believe a space cowboy on the internet; or one of the most intelligent people to have ever lived? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) Marxists believe in a destiny where there's a complete failure of society. Late-stage capitalism and all that. There will be a great revolution, lots of people will die. Doomsday. It's inevitable. It's destined to happen. But much like revelations, there will be a judgment day, but instead of Jesus there will a dictatorship of the proletariat. But that will fade away. Like a rapture or something like that. And then we will have heaven on earth, a worker's paradise for all eternity. It has been prophesized by some weirdo with a big beard 200 years ago. It was written, so it shall be! Soviet Union? That doesn't count! The stars weren't aligned properly and they were doing too much farming and not enough factory work. Well they did have factories, but things happened in the incorrect order. The prophecy from the man with the big beard specified the exact order things would happen in and the Soviet Union didn't follow that order precisely! It doesn't count! The prophecy of the man with the big beard will happen any day now! We've seen the signs. LATE. STAGE. CAPITALISM. Our destiny is upon us! Any day now! Marxism LOL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You, sir, have made my day. This is worthy of Reddit Gold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ever heard the phrase "Socialism or Barbarism"? Marxists don't believe socialism is an inevitable result of the end of capitalism. Socialism has to be built, the entire theory of Marxism is that we observe the history of the world (i.e. the history of class struggle) and, rather than waiting around for history to happen on its own, we intelligently act on historical forces and cultivate a better world we want to live in. If we just wait around for capitalism to collapse on its own, i.e. wait for what comes after late stage capitalism, we might all die. Capitalism could very well collapse into a post-apocalyptic hell where a few million survivors huddle around the poles to survive. Or just a nuclear war and total human extinction. Or a fascist Mars colony where only the elite are allowed to escape Earth. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, I understand that you believe in an inevitable doomsday and it's all based on some complicated system you've devised from reading the texts or whatever. But that's what every doomsday cult says. Do the texts specify date for the end times? I like the doomsday cults that do that because when the date comes and goes it's kinda funny. But I guess marxists don't do that otherwise it would've died out a long time ago. Capitalism sucks but it outlasted the Soviet Union. Capitalism also outlasted a hell of a lot of college professors that believed in it. Most people just grow out of it when they realize how silly the whole thing is. Others grow old thinking "any day now." The reality is no one really knows where things are headed. People find it comforting to hear from people that act like they're certain of the future. Even if the future they talk about is a doomsday. But it's all bullshit, no one knows the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago What we observe in capitalism is that it depletes resources as fast as possible in order to maximize profit. That's obviously impossible on a finite planet, and that's why we're running into real limits because of climate change. "The texts" are just the scientific observations on when the ice caps and glaciers will be gone, when the fossil fuels will be too expensive to continue, when the rainforests will be gone, when the top soil will be depleted, when the oceans will acidify too much to support shellfish and corals, etc etc. Saying we can't predict any of these things is unscientific. You're like a mystified peasant that refuses to believe feudalism will ever end. Next you'll say that some magical technology will solve all those problems and save us, and that is just blind faith in a cult of progress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago They are beyond our understanding. They’re like a fire juggler at a luau. It’s best to not get in their way while they’re working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) Marxists believe in a destiny where there's a complete failure of society. Late-stage capitalism and all that. There will be a great revolution, lots of people will die. Doomsday. It's inevitable. It's destined to happen. But much like revelations, there will be a judgment day, but instead of Jesus there will a dictatorship of the proletariat. But that will fade away. Like a rapture or something like that. And then we will have heaven on earth, a worker's paradise for all eternity. It has been prophesized by some weirdo with a big beard 200 years ago. It was written, so it shall be! Soviet Union? That doesn't count! The stars weren't aligned properly and they were doing too much farming and not enough factory work. Well they did have factories, but things happened in the incorrect order. The prophecy from the man with the big beard specified the exact order things would happen in and the Soviet Union didn't follow that order precisely! It doesn't count! The prophecy of the man with the big beard will happen any day now! We've seen the signs. LATE. STAGE. CAPITALISM. Our destiny is upon us! Any day now! Marxism LOL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You, sir, have made my day. This is worthy of Reddit Gold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ever heard the phrase "Socialism or Barbarism"? Marxists don't believe socialism is an inevitable result of the end of capitalism. Socialism has to be built, the entire theory of Marxism is that we observe the history of the world (i.e. the history of class struggle) and, rather than waiting around for history to happen on its own, we intelligently act on historical forces and cultivate a better world we want to live in. If we just wait around for capitalism to collapse on its own, i.e. wait for what comes after late stage capitalism, we might all die. Capitalism could very well collapse into a post-apocalyptic hell where a few million survivors huddle around the poles to survive. Or just a nuclear war and total human extinction. Or a fascist Mars colony where only the elite are allowed to escape Earth. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, I understand that you believe in an inevitable doomsday and it's all based on some complicated system you've devised from reading the texts or whatever. But that's what every doomsday cult says. Do the texts specify date for the end times? I like the doomsday cults that do that because when the date comes and goes it's kinda funny. But I guess marxists don't do that otherwise it would've died out a long time ago. Capitalism sucks but it outlasted the Soviet Union. Capitalism also outlasted a hell of a lot of college professors that believed in it. Most people just grow out of it when they realize how silly the whole thing is. Others grow old thinking "any day now." The reality is no one really knows where things are headed. People find it comforting to hear from people that act like they're certain of the future. Even if the future they talk about is a doomsday. But it's all bullshit, no one knows the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago What we observe in capitalism is that it depletes resources as fast as possible in order to maximize profit. That's obviously impossible on a finite planet, and that's why we're running into real limits because of climate change. "The texts" are just the scientific observations on when the ice caps and glaciers will be gone, when the fossil fuels will be too expensive to continue, when the rainforests will be gone, when the top soil will be depleted, when the oceans will acidify too much to support shellfish and corals, etc etc. Saying we can't predict any of these things is unscientific. You're like a mystified peasant that refuses to believe feudalism will ever end. Next you'll say that some magical technology will solve all those problems and save us, and that is just blind faith in a cult of progress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago They are beyond our understanding. They’re like a fire juggler at a luau. It’s best to not get in their way while they’re working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You, sir, have made my day. This is worthy of Reddit Gold. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ever heard the phrase "Socialism or Barbarism"? Marxists don't believe socialism is an inevitable result of the end of capitalism. Socialism has to be built, the entire theory of Marxism is that we observe the history of the world (i.e. the history of class struggle) and, rather than waiting around for history to happen on its own, we intelligently act on historical forces and cultivate a better world we want to live in. If we just wait around for capitalism to collapse on its own, i.e. wait for what comes after late stage capitalism, we might all die. Capitalism could very well collapse into a post-apocalyptic hell where a few million survivors huddle around the poles to survive. Or just a nuclear war and total human extinction. Or a fascist Mars colony where only the elite are allowed to escape Earth. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, I understand that you believe in an inevitable doomsday and it's all based on some complicated system you've devised from reading the texts or whatever. But that's what every doomsday cult says. Do the texts specify date for the end times? I like the doomsday cults that do that because when the date comes and goes it's kinda funny. But I guess marxists don't do that otherwise it would've died out a long time ago. Capitalism sucks but it outlasted the Soviet Union. Capitalism also outlasted a hell of a lot of college professors that believed in it. Most people just grow out of it when they realize how silly the whole thing is. Others grow old thinking "any day now." The reality is no one really knows where things are headed. People find it comforting to hear from people that act like they're certain of the future. Even if the future they talk about is a doomsday. But it's all bullshit, no one knows the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago What we observe in capitalism is that it depletes resources as fast as possible in order to maximize profit. That's obviously impossible on a finite planet, and that's why we're running into real limits because of climate change. "The texts" are just the scientific observations on when the ice caps and glaciers will be gone, when the fossil fuels will be too expensive to continue, when the rainforests will be gone, when the top soil will be depleted, when the oceans will acidify too much to support shellfish and corals, etc etc. Saying we can't predict any of these things is unscientific. You're like a mystified peasant that refuses to believe feudalism will ever end. Next you'll say that some magical technology will solve all those problems and save us, and that is just blind faith in a cult of progress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago They are beyond our understanding. They’re like a fire juggler at a luau. It’s best to not get in their way while they’re working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, I understand that you believe in an inevitable doomsday and it's all based on some complicated system you've devised from reading the texts or whatever. But that's what every doomsday cult says. Do the texts specify date for the end times? I like the doomsday cults that do that because when the date comes and goes it's kinda funny. But I guess marxists don't do that otherwise it would've died out a long time ago. Capitalism sucks but it outlasted the Soviet Union. Capitalism also outlasted a hell of a lot of college professors that believed in it. Most people just grow out of it when they realize how silly the whole thing is. Others grow old thinking "any day now." The reality is no one really knows where things are headed. People find it comforting to hear from people that act like they're certain of the future. Even if the future they talk about is a doomsday. But it's all bullshit, no one knows the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago What we observe in capitalism is that it depletes resources as fast as possible in order to maximize profit. That's obviously impossible on a finite planet, and that's why we're running into real limits because of climate change. "The texts" are just the scientific observations on when the ice caps and glaciers will be gone, when the fossil fuels will be too expensive to continue, when the rainforests will be gone, when the top soil will be depleted, when the oceans will acidify too much to support shellfish and corals, etc etc. Saying we can't predict any of these things is unscientific. You're like a mystified peasant that refuses to believe feudalism will ever end. Next you'll say that some magical technology will solve all those problems and save us, and that is just blind faith in a cult of progress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago What we observe in capitalism is that it depletes resources as fast as possible in order to maximize profit. That's obviously impossible on a finite planet, and that's why we're running into real limits because of climate change. "The texts" are just the scientific observations on when the ice caps and glaciers will be gone, when the fossil fuels will be too expensive to continue, when the rainforests will be gone, when the top soil will be depleted, when the oceans will acidify too much to support shellfish and corals, etc etc. Saying we can't predict any of these things is unscientific. You're like a mystified peasant that refuses to believe feudalism will ever end. Next you'll say that some magical technology will solve all those problems and save us, and that is just blind faith in a cult of progress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago They are beyond our understanding. They’re like a fire juggler at a luau. It’s best to not get in their way while they’re working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prosp3kt@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will always have some crazy evil mfucker even if you give them all of it. There were a gang in my country from mid class families that robbed houses. They went in a van and stole until the last TV. Human CAN BE evil by nature. It happens in other species too. Bears kill salmon just for pleasure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mental illnesses will never be eliminated, but can be managed. Raising material wealth in society will never eradicate crime, but it will lessen its likelihood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mental illnesses will never be eliminated, but can be managed. Raising material wealth in society will never eradicate crime, but it will lessen its likelihood. permalink fedilink source parent