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Discord Servers asking for Phone Numbers and 'Verification Levels' (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/10799766

(Edit: Cross-posted OP (link above) was mod removed by the Discord forum 'admin' on 2024-01-19 as being "False claim, false interpreted", so the above link will no longer work.)

Recently read this on a Steam game's reviews section ...

User Comment...

The game's Discord REQUIRES your personal phone number to get access at all. This is a very intrusive, and 100% unnecessary requirement, in order to just be able to interact with others about the game, it's content, player experiences, and many other things. It's also intrusive in regards to being able to contribute any input to help other players in any way at all.

Dev Response...

It's Discord that's asking you for verification of the account. We're not getting your phone number. This is standard practice on bigger servers that allows for a better user experience, filtering bots/ spam accounts, trolls, etc.

Could companies please STOP lying about it being Discord's choice, its not, is the Discord server's choice to ask for it.

Its a "Verification Levels" setting that the server op sets, and they have multiple options that they can choose from, its not an on/off switch. They can dial it back one notch and still have spam/bot protections.

The only difference between "High" and "Highest" verification levels is the addition of asking for a phone number, all other features of "High" is in "Highest", and "Highest" has no other extra features besides asking for the phone number.

Makes it really hard to have an pseudonym account on the Internet, for gaming purposes, and then be asked for your real phone number. I don't need to be tracked 24/7.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

But if the developer makes a Discord "server" for their game community, they are telling Discord to set up a service. If the developer encourages people to join it and retains moderation rights, they're taking that service they ordered from Discord and providing it to other people. If the developer failed to get some legally required in their jurisdiction contractual terms from Discord about what Discord can and can't do with data on the people who use the service, the developer could get in trouble when they provide that service to people without the service following local laws.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I'm sorry, but it's probably in your best interest to do some research and actually read the discord Terms of Service and Privacy Policy before arguing about something you lack knowledge in. Creators of a Discord server are not responsible for members' data that they send to Discord. That relationship is between Discord and the Member, not the creator of a server. Any "contractual agreement" you are talking about is covered when you click "I agree" when creating an account, the devs' accounts included.

This is a ridiculous argument that has a correct answer that Discord themselves will tell you.

Source: CASP+ Certified

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Does the server operator avoid any responsibility for data protection by just having the actual physical copies of all the data they do have access to (user names, post contents, etc.) physically live over at Discord? If the company president's PC is hacked and someone steals copies of all the personal information in support chats that were conducted over Discord, or the contents of private channels where people posted their home addresses for Secret Santa, or whatever, can the company get out of having any sort of data breach disclosure obligations because the data was really Discord's data?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I don't even know what you're asking. Discord owns all data on Discord. Server "owners" do not own anything from a data security standpoint. If you are asking a question in good faith, please rephrase it into smaller sentences. If you are arguing in bad faith, I have no desire to continue this thread.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Server “owners” do not own anything from a data security standpoint.

How can you tell that this is true?

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