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So, uh, if you have a Palestinian state "from the river to the sea" where do the Jews (who were born and raised in Israel, and who have no other homes) go? It's not a call for freedom, it's not a call for a ceasefire, it's not a call for Israel to withdraw its settlers from the West Bank, it's not a call for a two-state solution, it's a call for a repeat Holocaust.
No, it is not. You can look up the one state solution. At this point it's inevitable, just a matter of how much grief we put ourselves through to get there.
Israel exists to create a safe place for Jews. In a democratic one state solution jews would be in the minority in Israel so it would no longer be a safe haven for them, Israel would effectively no longer exist.
Israeli settlement has destroyed the viability of a two state solution. They have two choices left. Find a way to integrate Palestinians and Jews in a single democratic state or maintain a racist system of ethnic hierarchy where they violently oppress Palestinians. I for one don't like ethno states regardless of which ethnicity the ethno state prefers.
I can't see there being any way one state would work, any sane jew would leave as soon as it looked like they were losing control of the government, more likely they'd never allow it to come to that. I'm interested in thoughts on the settlements making two states non-viable. I assumed removing some of the Jewish settlements would have to be a part of the two-state solution. Do you think it's too late for that?
I hear you on the ethnostate issue, ideally Israel would have never been created and never have been needed, Jewish people could have lived safely in developed non-secular countries. But it was and it is, so we have to deal with the reality as it stands now.
I'm not in favor of forcible displacement in general. If people voluntarily bail as a result of losing their privileged position within an ethno state then I'd say that's a much better situation than forcing anyone from their homes. Anyone who's willing to stick around in a state where equality is the goal deserves a chance at peace and reconciliation. Although I'm sure a faction would stick around intending to use terrorism to regain their privilege. That's typically what happens in these situations. Look at the KKK in it's various incarnations