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Curious where all those outspoken supposed 'anti-anti-semites' are at when we’re robbed of our rightful passageway maddened

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I still dont understand what these tunnels were supposed to be for but the memes are gold.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

To my best understanding it seems to have mainly been an illegal expansion to a synagogue that had tunnels as just like a practical thing for the illegal construction, I'm not sure if they applied and got rejected before beginning the dig or if they just sort of decided to expand without caring about planning or regulations entirely but that seems to be the basic situation that I have gathered, I think the new space was meant to be a classroom or something.

Edit: Reading more it sounds like it was just an illegal expansion in general for more space for the synagogue, and also that theres an internal conflict involved between the main hasidic movement/group and a smaller sect within that, the smaller sect being the one to begin the illegal expansion. The smaller sect apparently believes that the former rabbi of the synagogue, who passed away in 1994, actually was the Jewish messiah, is not in fact dead(might be a wacky minority belief in the sect), and the expansion of the synagogue is a part of his wishes for the movement?

Unclear if the main movement also wished to expand the synagogue but legally, or if the smaller sect just decided to do it completely on their own.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I used to date a Jewish woman from NYC and she told me there's all kinds of weird ass Jewish sects in the city. Like you'll have some synagogue founded by immigrants from one Jewish village in Hungary who believe some rabbi who died in 1922 was the messiah and they'll randomly get in fist fights with guys from some synagogue from Moldova.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good basis for an RPG.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Oh god 4chan would have a field day with that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How the fuck does it make any sense to think "the messiah" was some guy who just like fucking died 100 years ago

and then the holocaust happened!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

This is like crap I half remember her telling me about, idk if there's literally a Hungarian Jewish sect that believes the messiah was some guy in the 20s, I do remember her telling me about some weird Moldavian Jewish sect that owned like a whole neighborhood in Queens and did get in fights with other Jews constantly. But FYI there's been a lot of Jewish messianic climates, and a few besides Jesus still how followers today, or at least had followers until not that long ago. There's some Turkish dude in the 1600s who I think some tiny Jewish sect thinks was the messiah.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The Christians or Jesus's followers didn't exactly have an easy time in the aftermath of Jesus's death. Nowhere near as bad as the Holocaust though.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

If I understand it correctly, the breakaway messianic sect claims the building that they were tunneling towards (which is owned by the other sect), and they made the tunnel to either break in or at least get closer to what they consider a holy site.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

theres an internal conflict involved between the main hasidic movement/group and a smaller sect within that, the smaller sect being the one to begin the illegal expansion

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